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Socrates
 

Registered: Dec 2004
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07-12-12 10:21 PM


Quote from Carl Granz:

15/20 trades with 4 lots each day

Duration? It depends. From few seconds to few minutes

So?



That's what I consider a scalp, also. But I wouldn't consider using limit orders. To me a scalp is opportunistic, a momo play. You want in and out when you want in and out.

IMO NQ is the best of the three because of the combination of volatility, tick size, payout, and margin.

ES leads YM. And YM leads ES. And neither leads either. It is untradeably random IMO, despite the ponderously pompous bullshit Jack spews on the matter.

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oldtime
 

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07-12-12 10:33 PM


Quote from Carl Granz:

ES, YM, NQ? for what reasons?

And in your opinion ES leads YM or viceversa?

I 've found the ES very difficult to scalp due to the execution of limit orders. On the other hand, the slippage is a rare event

NQ is probably the most profitable, but a bit difficult to trade due to the performance of 3/4 shares (AAPL etc.)

YM is more easy to trade and price levels are more respected than ES

TF is horrible

Any comments would be appreciated

TIA

I would avoid ES like the plauge, limit orders are almost never hit, and when they are hit the slipppage can kill you

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TheGoonior
 

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07-13-12 12:06 AM


Quote from oldtime:

I would avoid ES like the plauge, limit orders are almost never hit, and when they are hit the slipppage can kill you


How do you get slippage on a limit order?

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FreakofNature
 

Registered: Jun 2011
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07-13-12 12:15 AM


Quote from TheGoonior:

How do you get slippage on a limit order?



Impossible but I think he means price has to go over his limit by 1 tick.

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oldtime
 

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07-13-12 12:29 AM


Quote from TheGoonior:

How do you get slippage on a limit order?

it was a joke, but actually it is common in forex. never negative, but occasionally positive

I want to sell at the bid, and you want to buy at the ask, and the ECN just splits it, and we each get a little positive slippage

otherwise, when it comes to ES, it was just a joke, like hopefully this whole thread is.

but to reiterate, positive slippage on a limit order in forex is not normal, but then again it is not uncommon.

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RenkoTrades
 

Registered: Apr 2012
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07-13-12 12:34 AM

I always follow ES and NYSE buy/ sell programs looking for set ups, but I trade the TF for my entry. The TF is much more efficient to trade over ES, but ES is more liquid if you need to trade 20 lots or higher. I trade DAX some nights and that is my favorite. I never trade the YM or NQ and I don't really need to.

6E and CL I trade all day for intraday position trades.

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