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sprstpd
 

Registered: Apr 2003
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07-10-12 04:28 AM


Quote from Bob111:

what are you trying to say?



I'm curious if the number of f*cks in your posts is related to how much money you won/lost on a particular day. You definitely have an entertaining writing style.

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clearinghouse
 

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 572

 

07-10-12 05:37 AM


Quote from vincentvega:

You have been a et member for 1 decade and all you can afford is a 10" notebook?



I'd give a trader even more credit if he can make $$ with a Commodore 64 and a carrier pigeon. Keep the IT infrastructure cheap and keep the profits large, I say.

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Bob111
 

Registered: May 2002
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07-10-12 02:48 PM


Quote from sprstpd:

I'm curious if the number of f*cks in your posts is related to how much money you won/lost on a particular day. You definitely have an entertaining writing style.



obviously-there is some inverse correlation

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Rationalize
 

Registered: Jan 2010
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07-10-12 05:20 PM

And there's nothing wrong with a Commodore 64, especially with a 300 baud modem.

..

Have to as though .. why so much interest in hidden orders?

I mean, you're asking for shitty queue priority here.

Does this really outweigh the information retention?

Perhaps you're buying the whole company?

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sprstpd
 

Registered: Apr 2003
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07-10-12 07:42 PM


Quote from Rationalize:


Have to as though .. why so much interest in hidden orders?

I mean, you're asking for shitty queue priority here.



In my case, I don't appreciate being auto-pennied by robots. Any avenue that I can possibly have to eliminate this annoyance is a plus in my book.

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trader422
 

Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 61

 

07-10-12 10:38 PM

Agree with sprstpd on the general principle ... but I might add:

As most readers here probably know, the time-honored (and until recently very profitable, at least for me) business of being a non-pro retail liquidity provider is being rapidly crushed to death by the HFTs employing (1) a scorched-earth, on-steroids version of traditional order internalization and (2) latency arbitrage (i.e., legal front-running) using colocated direct exchange feeds versus the slower and less information-rich consolidated tape which all the little people have to use. Probably most of you read last week's news on the new NYSE RLP program and recognized this as another major nail in the coffin...

I've had a good run as a liquidity provider and won't be completely sorry to give it up in favor of one or more new lines in the trading business, but it's worth a try (or two, or three), and it's worth keeping a finger in the pie over the next few years, to see if the exchanges are now, or will ever, make available to retail traders any new order types that might be effective weapons in the battle against the HFTs. Do I believe it will happen, or is happening? No, but as just said I'm willing to invest some time, now and in the future, making sure I definitely can't do anything about getting screwed by the new order.

Anyway, that's my interest in the subject matter at hand: Check out any new order types and confirm or deny the hypothesis that they are not going to help me.

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