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SteveNYC
 

Registered: Jul 2010
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07-08-12 05:23 AM


Quote from Buy1Sell2:

One only needs a few rules to successfully trade.



I just buy things that go up. So easy that even a caveman can do it.

I also sell things that go down. A caveman can do this also.

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SteveNYC
 

Registered: Jul 2010
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07-08-12 05:27 AM


Quote from oldtime:

well, I think we all have had experience with our own version of "cut your losses short" it really only takes a calculator to figure out how much heat we can stand

so what is your let profits run method?

I can tell you, the one thing I tried that really destroyed a good system was entering a trailing stop on winners

fixed stops weren't much better

the thing that really made it click was trading the account

new account high? get flat



Sometime I use fixed stops.

New account high means more money to press harder. I usually do press harder and make more. Counterintuitive.

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oldtime
 

Registered: Jun 2011
Posts: 7357

 

07-08-12 05:27 AM


Quote from oraclewizard77:

OK. I totally disagree.

1) The 1st rule is to find an edge. If you don't have an edge, the rest is meaningless since randomly trading will not make you money.

2) The 2nd method is to determine what you want your win% to be. Yes, with a lower win%, you need to let your winners run more. With a higher than 50% win %, you can have breakeven or sometimes negative risk to reward.

3) Scaling in or out depends on your system. If you are averaging in because you don't want to take a loss, that can be bad. If before you enter the trade, you have set stop, and plan to average in as long as the stop is not violated, and this is part of your trading plan, that can be fine.

4) If like me you use a chart to trade, then sometimes the chart of price will help determine the stops and targets.

If you trade without stops and targets and are profitable over the long run, fine. The problem of not having stops is when something goes wrong, lets say you are long a stock, and the CEO let with all the money and fled the country, your no stop is going to hurt.

that's why we trade pairs, if one goes to hell it should probably be good for their competitor, if the market climate is good, it should probably be good for both of them, if that market climate is bad, oh well, you have the same problem as everyone else, but at least you have two out of three covered.

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oldtime
 

Registered: Jun 2011
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07-08-12 05:31 AM


Quote from SteveNYC:

Sometime I use fixed stops.

New account high means more money to press harder. I usually do press harder and make more. Counterintuitive.

I know, but you are aggressive, I am very passive, have always been small and just want to stay that way

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failed_trad3r
 

Registered: Oct 2009
Posts: 1613

 

07-09-12 01:19 AM

1. Find an edge
2. Don't use stops, if you need to use stops your leverage is too high
3. Average in. Nobody can predict turns but markets always mean revert
4. Don't daytrade, keep your commissions low, swingtrade or semi-buy and hold.

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RedTankEra
 

Registered: Feb 2012
Posts: 252

 

07-09-12 01:45 AM

Another Nazi trader that makes it very clearly that it is his way or the highway.

All you do is show your true colours of inexperience by limiting the ways where profitbaility can be achieved.

If there's one thing I truly hate is people posting on a public forums what cannot be done to make it.

There are many ways to skin the cat, just because some methods did not work for you does not mean they don't work for others.

I'm not here bashing your technique, but thinking it's the only way is absurdity and ignorance at best.

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