HOME FORUMS BROKERS SOFTWARE BOOKS CONTACT US
Elite Trader Your Account  •  Become a Member  •  Help  •  Search    
    Forums ›› Main ›› Trading ›› A trading secret only some will understand...  


Post A Reply
    Page 2 of 10:   1   2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  
AAAintheBeltway
 

Registered: Oct 2001
Posts: 14532

 

04-28-12 09:59 PM

I think this is a very valid concept, and I have to admit it is one I am not good at observing. I know my results would be a lot better if I did.

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
RangeTrader
 

Registered: Mar 2012
Posts: 705

 

04-28-12 10:02 PM

AAAintheBeltway it's kind of a tricky thing to measure because it varies depending upon the overall market fear level. There are a couple ways to put it down into exact rules though.

Here are my current time rules on daily-4d. The stronger the trend/momentumn is, the less time the market takes to consolidate on dips. I base my time rules on the EXACT amount of time from the last lowest low in the down cycle and the last highest high in the up cycle.

I'm personally very skeptical of this rally into may. Were entering the last gasp rally phase. Like early 2010, or march into summer 2011. Everyone knows it too... It's just a question of who the hell can time the perfect spot to get out before everyone jumps off a cliff... LoL! Everyone seems to have 1440 stuck in their head. Pretty much all parabolic rallies fail in a ugly fashion at some point. I stay away from parabolic moves in daytrading... Don't like em one bit.

If there is a great trade setup I may buy some puts, but if there isn't... Who cares... Scalping futures long off dips in rallies with decent internals has given me the most consistent results of anything.


I shifted the left chart back in time a bit so you could see what my charts said during this correction move late.

1d-4d.png
This has been downloaded 238 time(s).

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
HurricaneUS
 

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 755

 

04-28-12 10:13 PM

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...204#post3415204


"Josh,

I'm reposting my original post. Take special note of "it took some years to find a way to make it work". Here, I'm specifically referring to Rule 1. Rule 1 is not vague at all but actually trying to implement it will be a bitch.

I tried all sorts of combinations starting with time based stops and price action stops. I ultimately settled on a "combination" in conjunction with intermarket analysis. I daytrade stocks so I'm heavily watching the s&p and if I don't like what I see I will try and get out at entry, small loss, or protect a breakeven status. Unfortunately, I can't get much more specific than that.

I will say that there is no "correct" solution for rule 1. You just have to tinker around with different combinations of observations until you settle upon something that works for your setups.

The gist of Rule 1 is to avoid having your initial stop get hit in the first place. In this case, don't wait for the market to go against you or vacillate. GET OUT because you are not being proven right. Mark Fisher talks about this as well when he says that you should be one of the few participants buying at a level. If price stays in an area long enough for the "crowd" to get the same price as you, then you're no better off than the crowd.

To get an idea of what I'm talking about. A typical scenario for me will look like: breakeven, breakeven, small loss, average size winner, breakeven, breakeven, breakeven, breakeven, huge winner"

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
ocean5
 

Registered: Feb 2012
Posts: 934

 

04-29-12 12:22 AM

@RT,

And what is your time indicator?Your nose?

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
KastyG
 

Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 516

 

04-29-12 12:27 AM


Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I think this is a very valid concept, and I have to admit it is one I am not good at observing. I know my results would be a lot better if I did.



you've been trading for how long but never considered time as a relevant factor?

you been on here since 2001, i assume you been trading before this?

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
Wide Tailz
 

Registered: Sep 2011
Posts: 1521

 

04-29-12 01:58 AM

I've seen this secret posted elsewhere and never go around to back testing it.

But it does seem logical that good trades show you a profit immediately.

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
    Page 2 of 10:   1   2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  
Post A Reply


Receive an email whenever a new post is added to this thread by subscribing to it.
 
Rate This Thread:

Forum Jump:
 

 

   Conduct Rules  -  Privacy Policy  -  Day Trader -  Day Trader Forum -  Best Trading Software -  Sitemap Copyright © 2013, Elite Trader. All rights reserved.    
 
WHILE YOU'RE HERE, TAKE A MINUTE TO VISIT SOME OF OUR SPONSORS:
Advantage Futures
Futures Brokerage & Clearing
AMP Global Clearing
Futures and FX Trading
Bright Trading
Professional Equities Trading
CTS
Futures Trading Software
DaytradingBias.com
Professional Trading Analytics
ECHOtrade
Professional Trading Firm
eSignal
Trading Software Provider
FXCM
Forex Trading Services
Global Futures
Futures, Options & FX Trading
Interactive Brokers
Pro Gateway to World Markets
JC Trading Group
Direct Access Trading
MB Trading
Direct Access Trading
MultiCharts
Trading Software Provider
NinjaTrader
Trading Software Provider
OANDA
Currency Trading
optionshouse
Option Trading & Education
Rithmic
Futures Trade Execution Platform
SpeedTrader
Direct Access Trading
SpreadProfessor
Spread Trading Instruction
thinkorswim by TD Ameritrade
Direct Access TradingAdvertisement
TradersStudio
System Building & Backtesting
Trading Technologies
Trading Software Provider
Trend Following
Trading Systems Provider