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etile
 

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 134

 

04-15-12 04:28 PM


Quote from Handle123:


Trading is usually the same overall, find where the little trader is going to get screwed and trade against them.



This is how I tend to frame my trades. Do I have too much company on my side of the trade? What is the makeup of the people on my side of the trade? Is it dumb money? What possible exogenous events have not been priced in by the financial models that I can make a profit?

Everybody is using their own models to forecast. I speculate they probably are spread out in a normal distribution in terms of signals trade. Thus I find it best to be contrarian in nature. To see things just before the herd does.

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logic_man
 

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 1489

 

04-15-12 05:12 PM


Quote from etile:

This is how I tend to frame my trades. Do I have too much company on my side of the trade? What is the makeup of the people on my side of the trade? Is it dumb money? What possible exogenous events have not been priced in by the financial models that I can make a profit?

Everybody is using their own models to forecast. I speculate they probably are spread out in a normal distribution in terms of signals trade. Thus I find it best to be contrarian in nature. To see things just before the herd does.



I look at myself as aspiring to be "the smartest dumb money".

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logic_man
 

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 1489

 

04-15-12 05:16 PM

One epiphany is that when trading is done correctly, there is no distinction between trend-following, reversion to mean, counter-trend, momentum or any other type of trade designation of that sort. There is one entry price that unites all of them.

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2steps
 

Registered: Dec 2011
Posts: 85

 

04-15-12 05:17 PM


Quote from dom993:



- if one defines a pretty rigid trading plan, rigid to the point it could be automated, and then trades it manually, then the results are going to be worse than what the automated system would do ... 2 reasons for this, 1st is without automation, there is no possibility to do enough backtesting to validate every aspect of the system, hence some rules will actually be detrimental, unknown to the trader, 2nd reason is manual execution is inferior to automated execution (from taking a break to judgement errors, through fat fingers & what not)

- to the contrary, if the trading plan is more guidelines than rules, and the trader remains immersed in price action, then he has a lot of room to trade what he sees happening now, and with enough screen time & practice this will work more often than not - but not for an automated system.



Among all the contradictory statements I have ever encountered, the above two statements are the most!

You are truly confused and confusing.

My speculation is that you need higher education. You must have done poorly at school. Basic logic questions must be a big hurdle to you. I am sure your GRE score is low, if you ever took it.

Most traders are simply not very intelligent, not well-educated.

That's the reason of their failures. But they often found other things to blame. Think about it, if they have received good education, they wouldn't be in this dog fight of day trading. Day trading is not a profession or career, it's a hobby. Who in his right mind would treat day trading as a profession?? Only those who have no formal education and couldn't make it in normal professions.

You need to receive good education and get an MBA from a private university, like University of Phoenix.

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tihfa
 

Registered: Aug 2011
Posts: 40

 

04-15-12 08:54 PM


Quote from 2steps:

Who in his right mind would treat day trading as a profession?? Only those who have no formal education and couldn't make it in normal professions.



2steps,

it's because of newbie traders like yourself that i keep coming to thread like yours waiting for some good, educational and beneficial commentary/explanation/hint/pointers from the "uneducated" and successful in an "abnormal" profession.

thanks,
tihfa

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