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Rationalize
 

Registered: Jan 2010
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02-09-12 03:40 AM


Quote from WinstonTJ:

Not really - it won't trade through you unless there is size to fill your order. It can't***


***It can technically however with price improvement and inter-exchange arbs someone will usually pick you up before it prints higher elsewhere.

Let's say I'm looking to buy GOOG at $600.00 so I place a GTC bid to buy 1,000,000 shares (yeah one million) at $600.00.

Why would GOOG trade $599 before my lot is filled?

Conversely, if I'm offering 1,000,000 shares of GOOG at $625 (offering out to sell short) why would it trade through to $626 before my lot is filled?

In both cases anyone buying would want the lower price and anyone selling would be above the NBO and outside the market.



Just saying the order that crossed the spread and consumed whatever's in front of you may not be big enough to fill you entirely. So seeing price trade through your price in historical data may not imply you would have been filled entirely.

"Let's say I'm looking to buy GOOG at $600.00 so I place a GTC bid to buy 1,000,000 shares (yeah one million) at $600.00.

Why would GOOG trade $599 before my lot is filled?"

It wouldn't. But your big-ass bid size might stop price from getting down to 599.

I'm sure you know this .. but, it's hard to accurately test multi-lot liquidity providing strategies.

1 lots crossing the spread .. easy.

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WinstonTJ
 

Registered: Jan 2009
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02-09-12 03:49 AM

Using 1M shares for size was a bit over the top.

Is OP trading futures? I didn't pick up on that and I don't know the first thing about futures markets.

The message I was trying to relay to the OP is that if he assumes a fill at his target price when the price trades through his order by a penny, two pennies, etc. then he'll be able to assume a reasonable fill rate.

I think we are saying the same thing except I don't know anything about how futures trade.

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Rationalize
 

Registered: Jan 2010
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02-09-12 04:04 AM


Quote from WinstonTJ:

Using 1M shares for size was a bit over the top.

Is OP trading futures? I didn't pick up on that and I don't know the first thing about futures markets.

The message I was trying to relay to the OP is that if he assumes a fill at his target price when the price trades through his order by a penny, two pennies, etc. then he'll be able to assume a reasonable fill rate.

I think we are saying the same thing except I don't know anything about how futures trade.


Same same. Futures are little / no different.

It's just the size part I was picking up on.

Sucks when you become the market. That's all.

Edit: I think the OP meant something illiquid.

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Random.Capital
 

Registered: Jan 2005
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02-09-12 04:52 AM


Quote from NetTecture:

Non-answer. May I suggest you try thinking firt?



Excellent response.

Being a rude fuck is a first rate way to engage people, especially when you need help.

Cheers.

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