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White Supremacist Nazi behind temple killings
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-pictured.html
Shooter who gunned down six at Sikh temple who was vocal member of Nazi punk band and was kicked out of the army
The skinhead former soldier who killed six people and critically wounded three at a Sikh temple yesterday was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.
Wade Michael Page, who was kicked out of the army in 1998 when he worked at Fort Bragg in Psychological Operations, gave an interview two years ago to white supremacist website Label 56, telling them that he started the band End Apathy because of his wish to 'figure out how to end people's apathetic ways and start moving forward'.
The band's MySpace page says their music is a 'sad commentary on our sick society and the problems that prevent true progress'.
Witnesses said the 40-year-old opened fire just before services, entering the kitchen at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in suburban Milwaukee at about 10.30am as women prepared a Sunday meal.
It sent worshippers fleeing to escape the barrage - with many hiding in cupboards and texting the outside world begging for help.
He was finally gunned down by police officer Lt Brian Murphy, 51, who was shot 'eight or nine times' and who is now recovering in hospital.
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any of our resident right wing gun nuts missing from et today?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-pictured.html
Shooter who gunned down six at Sikh temple who was vocal member of Nazi punk band and was kicked out of the army
The skinhead former soldier who killed six people and critically wounded three at a Sikh temple yesterday was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.
Wade Michael Page, who was kicked out of the army in 1998 when he worked at Fort Bragg in Psychological Operations, gave an interview two years ago to white supremacist website Label 56, telling them that he started the band End Apathy because of his wish to 'figure out how to end people's apathetic ways and start moving forward'.
The band's MySpace page says their music is a 'sad commentary on our sick society and the problems that prevent true progress'.
Witnesses said the 40-year-old opened fire just before services, entering the kitchen at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in suburban Milwaukee at about 10.30am as women prepared a Sunday meal.
It sent worshippers fleeing to escape the barrage - with many hiding in cupboards and texting the outside world begging for help.
He was finally gunned down by police officer Lt Brian Murphy, 51, who was shot 'eight or nine times' and who is now recovering in hospital.
Obama ought to say, "If you go out and kill a few people, you didn't do that, someone else made that happen." Then Obama ought to credit the government with giving him military training.
We have to do this to keep things consistent. Let's keep it real.
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any of our resident right wing gun nuts missing from et today?
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Quote from AK Forty Seven:
He was finally gunned down by police officer Lt Brian Murphy, 51, who was shot 'eight or nine times' and who is now recovering in hospital.
Quote from wildchild:
Obama ought to say, "If you go out and kill a few people, you didn't do that, someone else made that happen." Then Obama ought to credit the government with giving him military training.
We have to do this to keep things consistent. Let's keep it real.
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Condolences to the ET righties who have lost one of their own
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....It's hard to imagine an incident that would be more likely to advance the cause of gun control in Washington. But nothing happened.
He was not gunned down by the wounded police officer. He was shot and killed by a second officer responding to the call.
I'm trying to keep count on how many times the media can say white male. Calculator is on fire.
Rumor is the shooter liked tea, drank tea, used tea leaves and once had a tea party. I can hear Chris Matthews now. Please, please let there be a connection.
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If he was a Nazi then he was your typical big government socialist. Any other big government socialists out there? Considering he is a big government socialist, he ought to be right up your alley.
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should be interesting to get the press reaction and compare it to the fort hood shooting.
how many times did they say "muslim male" when describing shooter.?
Talk about your righteous, joyful kill, putting down a skinhead. Why do cops get all the fun?
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I'm keeping an eye out
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Quote from Maverick74:
Hey AK47, you do know that the neo nazi's were part of the OWS group right? They have far more in common with the left. They are pro-labor, pro-union, anti-wall street and anti-free markets. Hate to bring down your party here.
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Hey AK47, you do know that the neo nazi's were part of the OWS group right? They have far more in common with the left. They are pro-labor, pro-union, anti-wall street and anti-free markets. Hate to bring down your party here.
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Hey AK47, you do know that the neo nazi's were part of the OWS group right? They have far more in common with the left. They are pro-labor, pro-union, anti-wall street and anti-free markets. Hate to bring down your party here.
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Yeah, Mav, and Stormfront is a bastion of liberal ideology.
You don't actually believe the shit you write, do you?
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nazi's are not so distant cousins to a lot of the political beliefs held by the left.
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Quote from Maverick74:
What you guys on the left don't seem to understand is that groups like Nazi's don't have an ideology. I pointed out the similarities they have with the left because people like you automatically think in terms of black and white. If they are not liberal then they must be conservative. Of course that line of thinking is preposterous but this is ET. While Neo-Nazi's might hate minorities, their "political" philosophy has always been left. Although some issues certainly over lap. There is a reason why they joined up with OWS over the Tea Party.
Reasons why they did not go with the tea party. They are pro-labor. They hate neo-cons. They hate the US support of Israel. They hate Wall Street (run by Jews in their mind). They hate rich people, corporations and corp welfare. They support single payer healthcare. They support social welfare.
On the flip side, they hate blacks, jews, gays, etc. Of course the Black Panthers hate jews and gays as well.
I think it's pathetic that anyone on these forums try to connect any of these shooters to ANY ideology. People who are crazy are outliers. They extend beyond the political realm. I was simply pointing out to AK47 that nazi's are not so distant cousins to a lot of the political beliefs held by the left.
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Quote from Maverick74:
What you guys on the left don't seem to understand is that groups like Nazi's don't have an ideology. I pointed out the similarities they have with the left because people like you automatically think in terms of black and white. If they are not liberal then they must be conservative. Of course that line of thinking is preposterous but this is ET. While Neo-Nazi's might hate minorities, their "political" philosophy has always been left. Although some issues certainly over lap. There is a reason why they joined up with OWS over the Tea Party.
Reasons why they did not go with the tea party. They are pro-labor. They hate neo-cons. They hate the US support of Israel. They hate Wall Street (run by Jews in their mind). They hate rich people, corporations and corp welfare. They support single payer healthcare. They support social welfare.
On the flip side, they hate blacks, jews, gays, etc. Of course the Black Panthers hate jews and gays as well.
I think it's pathetic that anyone on these forums try to connect any of these shooters to ANY ideology. People who are crazy are outliers. They extend beyond the political realm. I was simply pointing out to AK47 that nazi's are not so distant cousins to a lot of the political beliefs held by the left.
Boy it must suck to be a sikh.
Everybody thinks you're a fricken muslim terrorist.
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Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
Boy it must suck to be a sikh.
Everybody thinks you're a fricken muslim terrorist.
Quote from Lucrum:
Maybe they should take those rags and diapers off their heads and get some baseball caps. You know, to blend in.
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quite interesting that this isnt really that big of a news event as the Colorado cinema shootings. Somewhat odd too considering the Sikhs are sworn enemies of the muslims and have been fighting them for 500 years.
Quote from Lucrum:
Maybe they should take those rags and diapers off their heads and get some baseball caps. You know, to blend in.
Oh puhleeze don't get bent out of shape at the suggestion of some common sense, makes you sound like a fricken mudslime.
Quote from Shanb:
I guarantee you wouldn't spout this garbage in person, i forsure would make you eat your words if i heard any of that bs come out of your mouth.
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Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
Oh puhleeze don't get bent out of shape at the suggestion of some common sense.
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
Oh puhleeze don't get bent out of shape at the suggestion of some common sense, makes you sound like a fricken mudslime.
I think you guys should show respect instead of cracking on the cloth helmuts worn by non native American Indians. I have a serious question though. Did the shooter have a laser sight? It seems that the red dots already on the foreheads may have caused some confusion if he did.
The Dali Rennick out
mudslime my personal spelling of muslim.
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Mudslime, excuse me?? I don't usually frequent this part of the forum, and judging by the way some of the posters talk in here I am glad I don't. I thought the trading discussions have degraded over the years, but this little shit hole is even worse.
Oh well, I'm sure this place is 95% kids out of college or older folk who have too much time on their hands. Can't trade...so may as well lash out against each other. Have fun folks
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Quote from Shanb:
Mudslime, excuse me?? I don't usually frequent this part of the forum, and judging by the way some of the posters talk in here I am glad I don't. I thought the trading discussions have degraded over the years, but this little shit hole is even worse.
Oh well, I'm sure this place is 95% kids out of college or older folk who have too much time on their hands. Can't trade...so may as well lash out against each other. Have fun folks
Quote from Shanb:
If someone calls a Sikh's turban a diaper, I will most definately get bent out of shape. Half of my family are baptised sikhs and wear turbans. Its a very important religous symbol and I think that should be respected.
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Quote from Shanb:
Mudslime, excuse me?? I don't usually frequent this part of the forum, and judging by the way some of the posters talk in here I am glad I don't. I thought the trading discussions have degraded over the years, but this little shit hole is even worse.
Oh well, I'm sure this place is 95% kids out of college or older folk who have too much time on their hands. Can't trade...so may as well lash out against each other. Have fun folks
Quote from Shanb:
...I guarantee you wouldn't spout this garbage in person, i forsure would make you eat your words if i heard any of that bs come out of your mouth.
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...While Neo-Nazi's might hate minorities, their "political" philosophy has always been left...
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Quote from Brass:
Do you just make this shit up as you go along? Neo-Nazis are Right Wing extremists. Don't take my word for it, look it up and educate yourself, rather than fabricate a personal world view from whole cloth. How do you come up with this shit?
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When asked in an interview whether he and the Nazis were "bourgeois right-wing" as alleged by their opponents, Hitler responded that Nazism was not exclusively for any class, and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps", stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism".[19]
The term Nazi derives from the first two syllables of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP, Nazi Party).[20] The German term Nazi parallels the term Sozi (pronounced /zoːtsi/), an abbreviation of Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands (Social Democratic Party of Germany).[21][22]
The term Nazi was originally used by southern German opponents of the NSDAP, and may have been influenced by the Bavarian term Nazi, which was a familiar form of the name Ignatz, which was used colloquially to mean a "clumsy or awkward person". The earlier term Inter-Nazi, which was a German abbreviation of Internationale, may have also contributed to the adoption of the term.[23]
Members of the NSDAP referred to themselves as Nationalsozialisten (National Socialists), rarely as Nazis. In 1933, when Adolf Hitler assumed power of the German government, usage of the term Nazi diminished in Germany, although Austrian anti-Nazis continued to use the term as an insult.[22] Many Neo-Nazis still refer to themselves as National Socialists. According to Joseph Goebbels in an official explanation of Nazism, the synthesis of the words nationalism and socialism was to "counter the Internationalism of Marxism with the nationalism of a German Socialism".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
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Maverick74, to borrow from Daniel Patrick Moynihan, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. You are exhibiting lunacy here. Neo-Nazis are extreme Right Wingers. Done. Again, don't take my word for it, educate yourself. And by "educate, I don't mean "delude," which includes referring to articles with "multiple issues."
Seriously, you've morphed into a political loon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social...arty_of_Germany
And here is that social democratic party of Germany.
The SPD is a full member party of the Party of European Socialists and the Socialist International. It is Germany's oldest political party, established in 1875, in the German Parliament. It was also one of the first Marxist-influenced parties in the world.
Eat your heart out Alex P. Keaton.
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Quote from Brass:
Maverick74, to borrow from Daniel Patrick Moynihan, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. You are exhibiting lunacy here. Neo-Nazis are extreme Right Wingers. Done. Again, don't take my word for it, educate yourself. And by "educate, I don't mean "delude," which includes referring to articles with "multiple issues."
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Quote from Brass:
Maverick74, to borrow from Daniel Patrick Moynihan, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. You are exhibiting lunacy here. Neo-Nazis are extreme Right Wingers. Done. Again, don't take my word for it, educate yourself. And by "educate, I don't mean "delude," which includes referring to articles with "multiple issues."
Seriously, you've morphed into a political loon.
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Quote from Maverick74:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social...arty_of_Germany
And here is that social democratic party of Germany.
The SPD is a full member party of the Party of European Socialists and the Socialist International. It is Germany's oldest political party, established in 1875, in the German Parliament. It was also one of the first Marxist-influenced parties in the world.
Eat your heart out Alex P. Keaton.
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What does that have to do with ANYTHING we are discussing here?
http://www.nazism.net/about/nazi_ideology/
...Various right-wing politicians and political parties in Europe welcomed the rise of fascism and the Nazis out of an intense aversion towards Communism. According to them, Hitler was the savior of Western civilization and of capitalism against Bolshevism. Among these supporters in the 1920s and early 1930s was the Conservative Party in Britain. During the later 1930s and 1940s, the Nazis were supported by the Falange movement in Spain, and by political and military figures who would form the government of Vichy France. A Legion of French Volunteers against Bolshevism (LVF) and other anti-Soviet fighting formations, were formed.
The British Conservative party and the right-wing parties in France appeased the Nazi regime in the mid- and late-1930s, even though they had begun to criticise its totalitarianism. Some contemporary commentators suggested that these parties did in fact still support the Nazis...
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Quote from Brass:
What does that have to do with ANYTHING we are discussing here?
http://www.nazism.net/about/nazi_ideology/
...Various right-wing politicians and political parties in Europe welcomed the rise of fascism and the Nazis out of an intense aversion towards Communism. According to them, Hitler was the savior of Western civilization and of capitalism against Bolshevism. Among these supporters in the 1920s and early 1930s was the Conservative Party in Britain. During the later 1930s and 1940s, the Nazis were supported by the Falange movement in Spain, and by political and military figures who would form the government of Vichy France. A Legion of French Volunteers against Bolshevism (LVF) and other anti-Soviet fighting formations, were formed.
The British Conservative party and the right-wing parties in France appeased the Nazi regime in the mid- and late-1930s, even though they had begun to criticise its totalitarianism. Some contemporary commentators suggested that these parties did in fact still support the Nazis...
Maverick74, what I am beginning to see in you is the same kind of "conversion" that we all witnessed in the unfortunate gnome/Scataphagos metamorphosis. And no, I'm not kidding.
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Quote from Maverick74:
...It took you awhile but you finally came around.
Quote from Brass:
WHAT?! I mourn the loss of your mind. Be well.
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Quote from Maverick74:
And all I see in you is a vane insecure gym worshiping 54 year old man that posts on message boards all day having one side arguments and calling people names. If I get to that point at your age, just shoot me Brass for I will know my entire life has been an abject failure.
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"Gym worshipping?" I work out 3 days a week for a bit over an hour each time. If that's "worshipping" to you, then I won't have to shoot you at your request. You will likely save me the trouble. As for the rest, why not set aside a moment or two for some much needed introspection? Particularly since you seem to be perched quite comfortably on the radical fringe.
That is all.
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P.S. Bullshit questions get the attention they deserve.
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What we know for a fact is that this guy was not part of any mainstream political movement, right or left. He was a radical, and trying to imply he was mainstream right or left is beneath intelligent debate.
Neo Nazis are not part of any republican party anymore than the anarchists are part of of the dem party. Radicals attempt to hi-jack the message from both parties and the morons in the media give them voice as if they are legit elements of a politcal party. Ratings don't ya' know. The media doesn't really care who wins so long as there's a fight, and those in the media will happily stir the pot to the point of bloodshed whenever they can. After all, how do you fill 24/7 of time with 15 minutes of actual daily news?
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What we know for a fact is that this guy was not part of any mainstream political movement, right or left. He was a radical, and trying to imply he was mainstream right or left is beneath intelligent debate.
Neo Nazis are not part of any republican party anymore than the anarchists are part of of the dem party. Radicals attempt to hi-jack the message from both parties and the morons in the media give them voice as if they are legit elements of a politcal party. Ratings don't ya' know. The media doesn't really care who wins so long as there's a fight, and those in the media will happily stir the pot to the point of bloodshed whenever they can. After all, how do you fill 24/7 of time with 15 minutes of actual daily news?
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Quote from CaptainObvious:
What we know for a fact is that this guy was not part of any mainstream political movement, right or left. He was a radical, and trying to imply he was mainstream right or left is beneath intelligent debate...
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
I know lucrum didn't put it in a tactful manner.
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Quote from Brass:
Do you just make this shit up as you go along? Neo-Nazis are Right Wing extremists.
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Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
So the term National Socialist means nothing to you?
Damn you are such a tard!
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Quote from Brass:
And I bet if you were a lamb you would go for a walk with a wolf in sheep's clothing. Meanwhile, the thinking contingent among us judge groups by their actions rather than by the marketing they use to get a foothold. If you are actually equating fascism with socialism, then all I can say is, "Tard indeed."
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This just in. The Right doesn't know Keynes from canes, apart from it being a convenient whipping boy for all that ails them.
Ignorance, willful or otherwise, is a tragic thing.
That is all.
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This just in. The Right doesn't know Keynes from canes, apart from it being a convenient whipping boy for all that ails them.
That is all.
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Willful ignorance will be willfully ignored.
That is all.
Response EquityTM
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Willful ignorance will be willfully ignored.
That is all.
Response EquityTM
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Quote from Brass:
Shopping for strawmen? No one suggested mainstream. But trying to obfuscate left vs right here, and you're going to need a shitload of straw.
Quote from CaptainObvious:
So AK giving condolences to the ET righties losing one of their own wasn't suggesting the killer was mainstream? I guess everyone here at ET is a nazi, other than you, AK and a couple of others? Nothing radical about that line of thinking.
Quote from Brass:
Actually, his hyperbole was not that far off the mark. Do you consider the majority of the vocal Right on ET to be anywhere NEAR mainstream? And if so, don't ever lose that sense of humor.
Quote from CaptainObvious:
I don't think they're anywhere near being nazi's. If they were mainstream, they wouldn't be as successful as they are. Seems that most of them are quite accomplished in their chosen fields.
Average people bore me regardless of their politics.
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Hateful guys like peil, phoenix and the whole gaggle of misfits? Just because they say so? Oh, okay.
So "average people" (i.e., essentially mainstream by definition) bore you. Okay...
http://thesaurus.com/browse/mainstream
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...Yes, the mainstream, play it down the middle types bore me, whether it be politically, or the way they live their lives in general. I like risk. Thrill of victory, agony of defeat kind of thing...
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Yes, but by normal (there's that awful word again, eh?) standards, the vocal and "angry" Right on ET are more about the thrill of stupid and the agony of psychosis. And just in case you think I'm kidding, CO, please be assured I am not. You are siding with actual loons. If and when the lights come on you'll get a better look at your dance partners.
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Quote from Maverick74:
And there are NO angry people on the left? LOL. I guess you are not striving for credibility here. That's OK.
Like Captain said, I never thought angry was the definition of extreme. Have you ever been to a liberal protest before? I actually have. Angry does not even begin to describe them.
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Try to keep up. We are discussing the people here at ET.
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Quote from Brass:
Yes, but by normal (there's that awful word again, eh?) standards, the vocal and "angry" Right on ET are more about the thrill of stupid and the agony of psychosis. And just in case you think I'm kidding, CO, please be assured I am not. You are siding with bona fide loons. If and when the lights come on you'll get a better look at your dance partners.
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Yes, that's what I asked you. Are you saying there are NO angry people on the left on ET? Do you read the P&R forum? LOL.
Edit: I'm sorry, I asked you a question again. I keep doing that. LOL.
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"Gym worshipping?" I work out 3 days a week for a bit over an hour each time....
Quote from CaptainObvious:
I'm not siding with anyone. I'm just trying to understand the frustration and the best way for me to do that is look inward. In doing so helps me to get an idea of where they're coming from. Do I agree with them all the time? Obviously not! I was fighting with them daily about the evil devils in the corporate boardroom, and some of the B.S. politics on the right, but I don't see them as bad people. They're not always wrong and the left is not always right.
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Quote from Lucrum:
You didn't misspell worshiping did you?
But I digress. Speaking of gym are you still performing those ballerina squats you mentioned sometime ago?
Quote from Brass:
It is overwhelmed by your contingent. Ripple meet tidal wave.
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Quote from Lucrum:
You didn't misspell worshiping did you?
But I digress. Speaking of gym are you still performing those ballerina squats you mentioned sometime ago?
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Quote from Maverick74:
Don't try to be logical with Brass. You are either with him or against him. Case in point, a few months back when you were attacking the righties, you were with him and he was your friend. Now that you question the left, he sees you as against him. His shallowness is very transparent.
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
Wtf is a ballerina squat?
Quote from Brass:
I either agree with an idea or I don't. That's quite transparent. But it is not shallow; it is consistent.
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Quote from RCG Trader:
You bring your knees out at an angle. Takes away auxiliary muscle assistance.
What that means is that you have to squat with with your quads alone.
Quote from Maverick74:
No. You simply agree with anyone that spouts something from the left and disagree with anyone that spouts something from the right. Don't you have the ability to think for yourself instead of being a ditto head?
Quote from Brass:
Not quite.
I use about double the weight (dumbbells held at the sides) for 10 reps on the first set.
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He was asking about ballerinas. You are talking about pistols.
Quote from Brass:
Please stop being an idiot. I once respected you. I really did. Those days are gone. You may be different in real life, but you're an asshole here.
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Quote from Brass:
No, I didn't. But thanks for asking.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/worshipping?s=t
As for the pistol squats, they are among the most difficult exercises to perform. You couldn't do a single one unweighted, whereas I do them weighted. Again, thanks for asking.
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Chance favors the prepared mind. (Pasteur)
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Do you even notice how you never address anyone's question? You know who you act like? Michelle Bachmann. It's like you're reading off of a script. I ask a question and you keep on with your talking points. It's annoying when she does it and it's annoying when you do it. You don't have to agree with me. You don't have to change your mind, but can you at least address people's questions when asked. It's getting really old hat man. You're 54 dude, you should behave better then this.
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
Professionally speaking here for the benefit of lurkers.
Pistol squats while they look impressive are not good for your knees, especially weighted.
It's probably best not to exceed 100*of knee flexion nor bounce at the bottom .
90* will do just fine for muscular development and help keep your knees healthy.
Quote from Brass:
No, you're the child. You ask a stupid question and expect a respectful answer. Doesn't work that way. (Remember the response equity thing?) I've answered intelligent questions of yours in the past. I won't waste my time on stupid ones that you should know better than to even ask.
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Quote from Maverick74:
...Then the guys on the right will do the same...
Quote from Brass:
They already do! Every time I explained Keynesian policy as Keynes had intended (rather than how it was merely blamed), my remarks are either ignored or purposefully taken out of context. I refuse to revisit that rabbit hole. Your question wasn't really a question, it was a posture. And I choose not to give it legs at my expense. Seriously, mav, I've had my fill of you for a time. I have less trouble responding in kind to guys like peil and phoenix because I never respected them.
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Quote from Brass:
Yeah, except that's full of crap. While I used to do barbell squats to parallel and no further, pistols are different. They just are. And until you try them, your "professional" opinion isn't worth the "paper" it's posted on. I'm 54, and my knees are just fine.
Have you actually ever tried them? Butt to heel, heel on the ground, knees not forward beyond toes. Oh, you'll feel tension, but not so much in your knees.
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Chance favors the prepared mind. (Pasteur)
Pistol squats... aka Hindu squats?
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
I'm not going to argue with you, I know my shit.
If you want to do them fine.
But for others, the mechanics are all wrong placing increased stress on the tendons due to the angle of insertion on the bone in these positions.
This exercise simply places it's greatest stress on the passive structures of the knee and the non-contractile portion of a muscle.
If that is one's goal fine, I just recommend caution before anyone follows the advice of a blithering idiot on the net(ie brass).
Quote from Ricter:
Pistol squats... aka Hindu squats?
http://www.powerathletesmag.com/pages/pistols.htm
I haven't done these, but recently added front barbell squats to my lower regime. These seem like a one legged version without the weight (or with). I found the front squat to be easier on my knees than squats performed on a smith, though I use a considerable amount of less weight on the front. I might give these a cautious try following the guidelines in the posted article.
So as not to derail the thread, the type of extremist portrayed in this thread seems to have nothing in common with tea party members on the whole, though there were many attempts by the media early on to have us believe otherwise.
I'm surprised you'd perform anything named after a firearm. Given the fact you're scared shitless of firearms.
Quote from Brass:
...As for the pistol squats,
they are among the most difficult exercises to perform.[according to who...>[b][quote] You couldn't do a single one unweighted...
For the people who are arguing that the Nazi's werent socialists, you may want to brush up on your history before making a fool of yourself.....
Quote from Max E. Pad:
For the people who are arguing that the Nazi's werent socialists, you may want to brush up on your history before making a fool of yourself.....
Quote from Ricter:
The commies were the first group Hitler had killed. We won't know what economic system Germany would have had after the war (had they won), it undoubtedly would have been mixed like the rest of the planet's economies, but to call him a socialist is nonsense.
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Quote from Ricter:
...but to call him a socialist is nonsense.
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