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Well, I gotta go
it's Sunday 17:00 est and for me forex is opening for the week. I'm trading USD, first time for me to trade it exclusively. Everybody gripes about it, but it has been trending really hard on the one hour charts which is about the time frame that suits a small trader like me.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Re: Well, I gotta go
Quote from oldtime:
it's Sunday 17:00 est and for me forex is opening for the week. I'm trading USD, first time for me to trade it exclusively. Everybody gripes about it, but it has been trending really hard on the one hour charts which is about the time frame that suits a small trader like me.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Re: Well, I gotta go
Quote from oldtime:
it's Sunday 17:00 est and for me forex is opening for the week. I'm trading USD, first time for me to trade it exclusively. Everybody gripes about it, but it has been trending really hard on the one hour charts which is about the time frame that suits a small trader like me.
I'll let you know how it goes.

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im staying on the fence this week till friday 8:27am EST. Then im gonna short euro if its above 1.31-1.3080 area. I think this week euro will just hang around the 1.3170 to 1.3360 range till NFP. Then its gonna do big moves.
Re: Re: Well, I gotta go
Quote from SteveNYC:
Good luck. I gotta feeling that tonight's gonna be a good night. That tonight is going to be a good good night.![]()
well, I gotta go, forex opens here at 17:15 est, just a few minutes away.
That USD is pretty boring so far.
I was trading AUD.USD and AUD.JPY then I switched to USD
now the only thing I made money on was the AUD.USD and I'm still short
Got stopped out of the USD.JPY trying to buy some more at a better price.
I'm still short some EUR.USD
so basically I am just long the dollar.
Bought a little gold on friday
CYA
well, I gotta go, forex starts in 15 minutes. Man, that long USD worked out pretty well, especially against AUD.
Don't have a clue this week.
Usually the chop follows the trend.
My rule of thumb is any good trader should expect to give up 30% of the move.
So here's to ya all of those that were short. Stay with it and it's my gift to you.
70 for me, 30 for you, I can go for that.
Not sure how I will play it this week. Dollar neutral sounds like an account preserving strategy.
I made my money, now I just want to hold on to it.
I'll let you young kids figure out how to make it.
Dont forget to look at the negative carry on a short AUDUSD.
no kidding!
Quote from total_keops:
Dont forget to look at the negative carry on a short AUDUSD.
I was trading AUD exclusively from the long side for about two or three months. It was great while it was moving up, especially against EUR. But now on the way down I have to deal with the chop and the carry.
Quote from total_keops:
Dont forget to look at the negative carry on a short AUDUSD.
well, I gotta go pretty soon. Still haven't learned how to intrepret things when USD is closed and everybody else is open. Things have improved once I switched from market orders to limit orders.
I've got my limit orders in. If you're stupid enough to hit them I'll gladly take the other side, especially on a night when things may not be as they seem.
For those of us that hold over the weekend, the opening gap is always kind of a crap shoot
The way I see it, half the time it goes in my favor and half the time it goes against me
but if I get flat 100% of the time I pay the spread
gotta go see dad today, it may be his last Fathers Day
but I'll bring the laptop to see if this gap is all it's cracked up to be
About your dad. Been there.Loss hurts and time helps heal.
Life is a journey with a known destination.Make sure the journey makes the destination worth it.For the most part you will regret things not done more than things done. Ain't hindsight grand.
Re: Well, I gotta go
OT, I don't trade currencies much but when I do it's typically the USD. I've found this instrument behaves more rationally than the others and doesn't tend to give you, "where the f... did that come from." It behaves more like the futures market or even somewhat like the stock market. Good luck with it!
Quote from oldtime:
it's Sunday 17:00 est and for me forex is opening for the week. I'm trading USD, first time for me to trade it exclusively. Everybody gripes about it, but it has been trending really hard on the one hour charts which is about the time frame that suits a small trader like me.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Re: Re: Well, I gotta go
Quote from SteveNYC:
Good luck. I gotta feeling that tonight's gonna be a good night. That tonight is going to be a good good night.![]()
Quote from oldtime:
I've been trading forex almost a year now, but I don't get the carry and how to compute it or even for that matter what it is.
well I gotta go
hard to imagine anything going worse than it went last week. Most of the time everything I had on showed me a loss.
The pathetic thing is, if it had gone the other way I would have taken my profits and gotten flat and be looking for a new opportunity this week.
But I am hanging on to my losses.
That's probably why most traders lose.
I need everything that was going down to start going up
And everything that was going up to start going down
Is that too much to ask?
Quote from oldtime:
well I gotta go
hard to imagine anything going worse than it went last week. Most of the time everything I had on showed me a loss.
The pathetic thing is, if it had gone the other way I would have taken my profits and gotten flat and be looking for a new opportunity this week.
But I am hanging on to my losses.
That's probably why most traders lose.
I need everything that was going down to start going up
And everything that was going up to start going down
Is that too much to ask?
I like to talk, especially about trading, I am very lonely and very rarely talk to anybody but the lady at the c store where I buy my cigarettes, and then all I shyly say is "thank you".
Quote from tradin4profits:
Gee, how could that be with an expert like you? 3000 posts of your expertise in 1 year I would have thought you knew what you were doiing.![]()
whew! got to drinking that good old Kentucky Whisky and slept right thru the open
pretty quiet gap this sunday
my salvation came thurs night thanks to merkle
but I'm still short AUD/USD
that pair is gonna be the death of me
if I ever get out of it alive, I will never be scared to go long AUD again
well, nice talkin to ya, I gotta go
at anyrate, I shorted some more at 261, not sure if my limit got hit or it traded through, trade log shows a fill at 17:15:02
we'll see if that holds
AUD is going to depreciate against the dollar, right?
I mean, that's what everybody says.
Everytime I get filled on my short AUD/USD I short a little more USD/CAD, just to cover my ass
Quote from oldtime:
whew! got to drinking that good old Kentucky Whisky and slept right thru the open
pretty quiet gap this sunday
my salvation came thurs night thanks to merkle
but I'm still short AUD/USD
that pair is gonna be the death of me
if I ever get out of it alive, I will never be scared to go long AUD again
well, nice talkin to ya, I gotta go
we'll see if that 261 holds, unfortunately now it is my largest position and biggest loser
Quote from Tsing Tao:
I short the AUD frequently. I never get worried about it, because I do small positions, at major resistance lines.
I'm flat, finally, at an all time new high. Covered the AUD at 232, now I'm going to take a shower and go to the store and feel what it feels like to be happy, and stay that way maybe until jobs Friday.
got out of that one alive, covered at 232, ashamed to say how much I lost altogether on just that one pair, but everything else I had on more than made up for it, but yes and no, I was the following forex herd, now I see they are no better than the stock herd, so from now on I am just a lone cow, looking for some grass, waiting for my udder to dry up so I never get milked again
Quote from shopster jr.:
so you just follow the herd into the slaughter house.........?
Quote from oldtime:
(you wouldn't happen to know where I can find some good grass, would you?)
well Tsing, I'm short AUD again, this time at 282, do you think that might be resistance?
Quote from Tsing Tao:
I short the AUD frequently. I never get worried about it, because I do small positions, at major resistance lines.
well, this is just a bunch of shit. AUD and CAD are moving almost penny to penny together. Good for me now since I am short both of them, but there will be hell to pay when they both turn.
yeah, you think that Martingale is so easy. I just want to get out of this one close to even. I told you I wanted to stay flat and not put anything on until jobs Friday.
Quote from oldtime:
well, this is just a bunch of shit. AUD and CAD are moving almost penny to penny together. Good for me now since I am short both of them, but there will be hell to pay when they both turn.
well, I gotta go. That's the last time I will ever think USA is some kind of big deal. Man, they just rolled right over me.
Fourth of July aint shit compared to Saturday and Sunday when Europe (the number one economy) and China (the number third econony) take the day off.
CYA, I'll talk to you Sunday when the real world opens up again.
Until then, I'm just going to pretend it's another normal night.
otherwise, they are shooting off fireworks tonight (in spite of how dry it is) and that is kind of oldtime. And you know how I love oldtime.
''Everybody can change!''
Rocky IV
yes, I hope you do. Gotta go, I'll deal with the likes of you next week after forex opens.
Quote from ocean5:
''Everybody can change!''
Rocky IV
impatiece, that is the sin I am paying for, like a common Las Vegas gambler I got bored over the fourth of July and needed action
long CHF, with no other plan than to pray and hope it goes up
I never was that mighty in the first place
but oh how the mighty have fallen
I am now officially in a drawdown (30% or greater below the recent new account high)
and unless you consider this a post
I never post when I am in a drawdown
CYA next week
(I did get a little help from some short AUD/USD)
Quote from oldtime:
I am now officially in a drawdown (30% or greater below the recent new account high)
and unless you consider this a post
I never post when I am in a drawdown
CYA next week
(I did get a little help from some short AUD/USD)
i'm long now, but no longer in a drawdown
Quote from RCG Trader:
Nice move tonight oldtime, how much of it did you get? How about you Tsing?
Quote from RCG Trader:
Nice move tonight oldtime, how much of it did you get? How about you Tsing?
Quote from Tsing Tao:
How about me what?
pretty quiet gap this Sunday.
I have 4 pairs on
2 short USD and 2 long USD
at the moment all 4 are showing me a profit for the night
that is unusual
hard to read that dollar
I don't want to get too long or too short
not much to look forward to this week, maybe Ben will say something, or maybe I will make something from the red ripe fresh tomatoes on the patio.
the best way to make moneyes in forex is to jump on trend and stay on,when usd/eur was 1,40 -1,50 ,theres was a few smart commentarries saying it will go to 90 cent,and it will
for eur/usd next target is 1,1917 ,so sell any rallies
if you missed eur downdraft,theres another one coming ,jump on wagen and stay put
long usd/jpy 79,11 target 1,20-1,50
Starting a little early this weekend. Hit a new account high Thursday and got flat. Now, for the first time in a long time I get to feel what it feels like to go into the weekend flat.
I'm just like a little ES trader and can't wait for the market to open Monday morning, only in my case it opens 17:15 Sunday et.
Kept the same position on in the paper account and apparently it would have made even more money if I had hung on.
AUD/USD I have been short as long as I can remember, and everytime I close everything out, that is the one glaring loss.
Not sure how I will play it this week
the winning trade was
short AUD/USD
long GBP/USD
short USD/CAD
long USD/CHF
short USD/JPY
so I've just slightly tipped my bias to short USD
But short against what?
as bad as USD is, everybody else also has a good case for going down
Gold is interesting, DX 83 gold low
DX 78 Gold high
but how long will that last?
If somebody could give me the real value of gold I would feel a little more confident trading it.
I have a lot of money in the bank. I use to think it was just sitting there, now that I am trading forex I see it is going up and down everyday.
got flat again Thursday at another new account high. Hopefully I am not getting complacent, but it does seem at the moment like taking candy from a baby.
the spread now is always the same
aud vs cad
gbp vs eur
and USD/JPY always in reserve if you want a USD bias
Martingale your losers, and if you can put on the spread at a more favorable price than you entered with your winners, go for it
Very difficult to get long EUR with all the news fundamentals
Thank g-d for sim, like the man said, when it goes to hell, that is a good time to put it on for real
Quote from oldtime:
got flat again Thursday at another new account high. Hopefully I am not getting complacent, but it does seem at the moment like taking candy from a baby.
the spread now is always the same
aud vs cad
gbp vs eur
and USD/JPY always in reserve if you want a USD bias
Martingale your losers, and if you can put on the spread at a more favorable price than you entered with your winners, go for it
Very difficult to get long EUR with all the news fundamentals
Thank g-d for sim, like the man said, when it goes to hell, that is a good time to put it on for real
well good luck, that goddamn pair didn't do me a hell of a lot of good last week, all it did was just sit there
Quote from atticus:
You're out of USDJPY? Lost some of its steam late in the day. I expect a 78.20-79.00 range this week. I am long the 77/79.65 DNT (2xKO) that expires Friday NY Fix.
Quote from oldtime:
well good luck, that goddamn pair didn't do me a hell of a lot of good last week, all it did was just sit there
what is a DNT?
yeah 78.18 was where I got in at, and that was about where I got out at
ah shit man, you are so far ahead of me I will never catch up. I'll google some of that stuff. Are you talking about binaries? I might have been good at that one time when I was young. I grew up in Indianapolis, and in the fifth grade I had a pool going where when I finally had all the bets covered on the Indy 500 the worst I could do was break even.
Quote from atticus:
Ahh, I figured you got out on the rally. Double no touch. A path dependent exotic option. If 77.00 or 79.65 is touched this week I lose the premium. Paying 100/127 refers to the premium (numerator) and the payout (denom). I earn 27% on the bet if neither barrier is touched. Losing the entire premium if touched.
Quote from oldtime:
ah shit man, you are so far ahead of me I will never catch up. I'll google some of that stuff. Are you talking about binaries? I might have been good at that one time when I was young. I grew up in Indianapolis, and in the fifth grade I had a pool going where when I finally had all the bets covered on the Indy 500 the worst I could do was break even.
but now I am kind of old and slow thinking
when I finally got the whole deal done and started bragging about no matter who won I couldn't lose, the teacher started making a big deal about what a bad guy I was.
But she never understood the risk I had to take to put it all on.
not even worth posting this week, hoping the gap would bail me out, but no such luck
everything that sould be up is down
and everything that shoud be down is up
Hit a new account high Thursday (that's getting to be a pattern) but I didn't take it because it was "not enough"
Now I'm on week two with this miserable position
AUD/USD short
EUR/USD short
GBP/USD long
USD/CAD short
not sure what that was all about, just sold some more EUR/USD at 2443
what I didn't tell you is, when I sold the Eur I also added a little to my long CAD. The problem is, when I add to winners I have to put in a stop at BE just like every other dumbass out there. I don't like it any more than you do, but it is part of my wealth preservation program. As far as I know, it almost never works, but when it does work, that's what keeps me from getting a job.
Quote from oldtime:
not sure what that was all about, just sold some more EUR/USD at 2443
wasn't aware AUD was on holiday, thanks for the info, my fault for not paying attention
Quote from contra:
euro short covering and squeeze, stops triggered. look at the euro crosses too, such as eur/aud covering... would explain the no go on aussie ahead of data with a bank holiday down under?
some resistance from 0600-0668 daily highs..
well that worked out very well, happened so fast I didn't even notice. I guess I covered half at 2393
I've got a stop in on the CAD at 18, maybe it will hold, but it's very close, 10 pips, not likely, but I've been buying car insurance all my life, and as far as I know, I'm a net loser on that deal. Nobody ever ends up in the hospital and brags about how much they made on insurance.
well, these are the days that give you hope. Everything that is supposed to be up is up, and everything that is supposed to be down is down, and by quite a bit.
It's easy to become cynical about the human race, but everynow and then they come through and create doubts about their ultimate destruction.
so let me explain
I am short AUD/USD
short EUR/USD
long GBP/USD
short USD/CAD
which creates four crosses
long GBP/AUD which is up 35 as we speak
and short AUD/CAD which is down 45
and short EUR/CAD which is down 21
and short EUR/GBP which is down 11
so you see, it is all good
kind of sloppy for me this weeks ending, I aint even going to post Sunday
I got
short aud/usd
long eur/usd
short gbp/usd
short usd/cad
1:1:1:1
Friday afternoon, and they all went against me, so I'm just a gap away, I don't want to talk about it this weekend
running the same position in the paper account and experimenting with some different size options
very simple stuff
gotta be careful, these low volatility weeks will suck you in
I'm flat, just looking for a place to get back in. That USD has been really good for me, but it looks like it wants to move a little. Think I'll switch to GBP
So that would be
Short EUR/GBP
Long GBP/AUD
Short GBP/CAD
Short GBP/USD
which makes me
short aud/cad
short aud/usd
short eur/cad
short eur/usd
Quote from oldtime:
I'm flat, just looking for a place to get back in. That USD has been really good for me, but it looks like it wants to move a little. Think I'll switch to GBP
So that would be
Short EUR/GBP
Long GBP/AUD
Short GBP/CAD
Short GBP/USD
which makes me
short aud/cad
short aud/usd
short eur/cad
short eur/usd
well, you have to twist your mind a little. I always keep the created crosses at the bottom of my screen. For one thing, as soon as I enter I put in a limit to add some more at a loss and that limit messes up my two minute charts, so if I want to watch it on the chart I pull up the cross.
Quote from contra:
Sup oldtime... going for GBP eh...
Not sure how you're short aud/usd here though? it seems like it almost nets out there, besides the GBP component, as you're short gbp/usd...
atticus changed my mind, I'm going to swap the long GBP/AUD and replace it with long GBP/JPY, and I'm ready to go with this before midnight. I'll get short the AUD later. (or who knows, by that time maybe long.)
Quote from oldtime:
atticus changed my mind, I'm going to swap the long GBP/AUD and replace it with long GBP/JPY, and I'm ready to go with this before midnight. I'll get short the AUD later. (or who knows, by that time maybe long.)
I won't hold you responsible, it was the observation about the big move in aud I was talking about, I'll be fine, and good luck to you too, even if we are on other sides, you take your profit first, and I'll get mine later,
Quote from atticus:
I don't want to sway you, but I am going short EURJPY, which in the arb would imply short EURGBP and short GBPJPY. IOW, I don't like short yen against Europe, but dislike EUR more than GBP (longs). I see ZERO upside in short yen against Europe this week.
If you want long GBP then take a short EURGBP, but it's not a position I would take.
FWIW, I am going short EURAUD and EURJPY.
well, I put on that gbp, man, I paid through the nose on the spread even at interactive at 18:24 on a Sunday.
It's about what you would expect, winning on the CAD and USD, losing on the EUR and JPY.
I can feel myself getting sullen and withdrawn. Doesn't matter, I don't smoke pot even if it was legal when I am trading, but sure could have used some this weekend when I was flat. CYA next week.
Quote from oldtime:
I can feel myself getting sullen and withdrawn. Doesn't matter, I don't smoke pot even if it was legal when I am trading, but sure could have used some this weekend when I was flat. CYA next week.
thanks contra, I'll check in with you on your jounal. It gets lonely on a Tuesday night, it is always nice to know someone is also awake just watching and trying to figure. Plus I enjoy the fundamental reports. I use to do a little business out there on Long Island, probably nowhere near where you live. It involved recycling, and all the signs were triplicated, one in English, one in Spanish and one in what I guess was Russian (not sure) but some of the letters were backwards.
Quote from contra:
That's probably a good thing, but I do, lol. I saw there was a thread about this drugs and trading but didn't get want to get involved in that, people who are asking of it would help their trading or some shit.
My trades are somewhat planned out a bit though so it's not like I'm some stoned kid sitting here clicking buy/sell on impulse.
Good luck with GBP. I'll probably lay low for now until I get something to run on.
Quote from oldtime:
thanks contra, I'll check in with you on your jounal. It gets lonely on a Tuesday night, it is always nice to know someone is also awake just watching and trying to figure. Plus I enjoy the fundamental reports. I use to do a little business out there on Long Island, probably nowhere near where you live. It involved recycling, and all the signs were triplicated, one in English, one in Spanish and one in what I guess was Russian (not sure) but some of the letters were backwards.
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