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Posted by joannasmith on 03-18-12 09:37 AM:

Are girls better traders?

I think so. Do you?


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-18-12 11:02 AM:

yes.

They are more disciplined than the big swinging dicks who try to show their daddy balls , and finally lose them in the market.

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Posted by intradaybill on 03-18-12 11:06 AM:

How do you measure "better"? Better looking did you mean?


Posted by sheda on 03-18-12 11:37 AM:

Impossible to tell you need two test groups of a decent size, in the male group you will find exceptional traders, average traders losers and no doubt the personality flaws we have all heard so much about. Do we have a female group of traders large enough to compare with? No.


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-18-12 11:40 AM:


Quote from sheda:

Impossible to tell you need two test groups of a decent size, in the male group you will find exceptional traders, average traders losers and no doubt the personality flaws we have all heard so much about. Do we have a female group of traders large enough to compare with? No.



I employ a female assistant , she is sharper ,more disciplined ,risk averse ,clued up and more intelligent than the male .

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Posted by jayboy on 03-18-12 11:41 AM:

I am better at innovating in our trading system, but my woman is far better than I am at finding setups as they develop. Far better.

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Posted by sheda on 03-18-12 11:50 AM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

I employ a female assistant , she is sharper ,more disciplined ,risk averse ,clued up and more intelligent than the male .



Throw ten male traders in a room and you can have from one extreme of trading status and skill to the other and everyting in between, its not as simple as " i know one " but teists do help;)


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-18-12 11:59 AM:


Quote from sheda:

Throw ten male traders in a room and you can have from one extreme of trading status and skill to the other and everyting in between, its not as simple as " i know one " but teists do help;)



male traders are like headless chickens in the pits , 95 % are male , so there are few fewer female losers.

Show them a pair of tits , their trading minds go off track.

pits and tits rhymes

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Posted by sheda on 03-18-12 12:08 PM:

Lets ask the question which sex is better at the sport called X. The only infomation we have to analysis this is that 95% of the participants are male. Of those who put them selves through the trials and tribulations of becoming a trader and passing the hurdles, tests and pains, 95% happen to be male?

Which sex is better at this particular activity?


+ All male minds go slightly off course at the sight of a fine pair..unless your old and impotent?


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-18-12 12:16 PM:


Quote from sheda:

Lets ask the question which sex is better at the sport called X. The only infomation we have to analysis this is that 95% of the participants are male. Of those who put them selves through the trials and tribulations of becoming a trader and passing the hurdles, tests and pains, 95% happen to be male?

Which sex is better at this particular activity?


+ All male minds go slightly off course at the sight of a fine pair..unless your old and impotent?



They are dumber not to realise the odds stacked against them , and to go into trading in the first place.

How many females are so dumb?There morons beat the dumb blondes.

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Posted by sheda on 03-18-12 12:21 PM:

You have some irrational bias here, I have come across smart women I have come across not so smart women, I have came across really good female traders and others who fall to shit.

Without the test groups resouces and time, a lot of time, we cant tell and even with all of the above, theres only a certain point of certainty that can be reached.


Posted by trader198 on 03-18-12 12:27 PM:

female like to buy and hold, their hobbies are collections. look at their closets, tons of variety style clothes, shoes..... shopping is their hobbies


male like to get in and get out frequently, they love the short-term excitement.., they like to conquer, I do not see any males' closets are full of clothe collections. we males hate shopping.

my wife just keeps buying stocks in her ira/401k, even some drawdown, but she just keeps holding, and continue buying,... just like shopping, her IRA/401k return is better than my IRA ( I day trade it occasionally, other time sit on cash), very embrassed.

I would say females are more suitable for investment, particularly long-term. since their hobbies are shop around, compare, buy and hold. they can find fun/happiness in buying and holding, we males can not.

so in a household, better let wife handle 401k/IRA. just let a tiny unneccessity money to hushand for playing the trading game, ...


Posted by joannasmith on 03-18-12 12:32 PM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

male traders are like headless chickens in the pits , 95 % are male , so there are few fewer female losers.

Show them a pair of tits , their trading minds go off track.

pits and tits rhymes



This is sexist. I take offense.


Posted by joannasmith on 03-18-12 12:33 PM:


Quote from trader198:

female like to buy and hold, their hobbies are collections. look at their closets, tons of variety style clothes, shoes..... shopping is their hobbies


male like to get in and get out frequently, they love the short-term excitement.., they like to conquer, I do not see any males' closets are full of clothe collections. we males hate shopping.

my wife just keeps buying stocks in her ira/401k, even some drawdown, but she just keeps holding, and continue buying,... just like shopping, her IRA/401k return is better than my IRA ( I day trade it occasionally, other time sit on cash), very embrassed.

I would say females are more suitable for investment, particularly long-term. since their hobbies are shop around, compare, buy and hold. they can find fun/happiness in buying and holding, we males can not.

so in a household, better let wife handle 401k/IRA. just let a tiny unneccessity money to hushand for playing the trading game, ...



This post is highly sexist and stereotypical.


Posted by rmorse on 03-18-12 12:56 PM:

I don't think gender is an issue. Proper training. Proper mind set. Have the ability to make decisions with little information very quickly, and be OK with being wrong. Treat trading as a business. Traditionally, women have not been drawn to trading in the same numbers as men, or there have been a lack of opportunity. I'm not sure.

I think my daughter, now 24 years old, would have made a better trader than me, but she took another path. She likes to sleep at night!

Bob

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Posted by Martinghoul on 03-18-12 01:02 PM:

Re: Are girls better traders?


Quote from joannasmith:
I think so. Do you?


Yes, there's ample research on the subject. See "Boys Will Be Boys" by Barber & Odean for a most famous example.

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Posted by xioxxio on 03-18-12 01:03 PM:

Male are far better traders, I have worked with both. The great female trades that I have worked with have been lesbian (dominant partner)

I am not saying every male is better than females, what I am saying is if you take the best males vs. the best females the males will win hands down.

Speak to any head of trading at any major IB and they will confirms this.


Posted by RichardRimes on 03-18-12 03:40 PM:

are "girls" better traders?


probably no better than "boys"


Posted by Scataphagos on 03-18-12 03:43 PM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

"... Show them a pair of tits...




A pair? Only takes ONE!


Posted by rmorse on 03-18-12 04:49 PM:

Re: Are girls better traders?


Quote from joannasmith:

I think so. Do you?



I can't respond to your PM, your blocking responses.

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Posted by hajimow on 03-18-12 05:26 PM:


Quote from trader198:

female like to buy and hold,




That is not true. Females like to buy and return the next day. Don't believe me? Go to the retail stores return desk. "Dude Seriously it is totally grose"

Based on this habit, females will just increase liquidity in the market.


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-18-12 05:37 PM:


Quote from hajimow:

That is not true. Females like to buy and return the next day. Don't believe me? Go to the retail stores return desk. "Dude Seriously it is totally grose"

Based on this habit, females will just increase liquidity in the market.



I never go shopping with my wife ,or buy her any presents .Next she takes me for a refund ,exchange and more expensive.

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Posted by RobertG on 03-18-12 05:43 PM:

Here is my logic:
90%+ of male retail traders lose
90% of woman will not touch trading

Therefore woman will have less headaches and anxiety than males and might end up with more $$
I am not sure they are better traders though.


Posted by Humpy on 03-18-12 06:16 PM:

Let's face it men are better at everything than women. Whether it's running, jumping, cooking etc. In fact women really only have the one function at which to excel and that is producing babies.

So often they make the bloke feel guilty at winning or stand on gender rights etc. to get the advantage and then try to dictate !!

A big mistake letting them even get near the top jobs.

Tits are only fat with mammary glands that produce tiny amounts of milk. Barely enough for a cuppa

Sex is vastly over rated too.


Posted by cyoungmark on 03-19-12 02:30 PM:

I would say women have a different mindset or attitude towards risk. To me it seems they are more conservative and risk averse.

This helps me understand why there are more men that have "made it big" in the markets. They take way more risk (especially younger guys) which produces exponential returns in some cases.


Posted by 4PurposeLiving on 03-19-12 03:02 PM:

Re: Are girls better traders?


Quote from joannasmith:

I think so. Do you?



I believe that being female or male is probably not one of the factors most related to success.


Posted by rmorse on 03-19-12 03:03 PM:

Re: Re: Are girls better traders?


Quote from 4PurposeLiving:

I believe that being female or male is probably not one of the factors most related to success.



I agree......

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Posted by RichardRimes on 03-19-12 04:11 PM:

ya know mods...rather than clean up the funny comments why not just put this in chit chat....ET is getting more boring every day..'bout as boring as the market. The only reason to come is for the rude crude and socially unacceptable comments.


Posted by Humpy on 03-19-12 06:01 PM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

I employ a female assistant , she is sharper ,more disciplined ,risk averse ,clued up and more intelligent than the male .



I think you mean .......than you .......but are not willing to admit defeat entirely..........?

Just because you are prolly a half wit, it doesn't mean all blokes are . More men have been Nobel Prizewinners etc.


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-19-12 06:17 PM:


Quote from Humpy:

I think you mean .......than you .......but are not willing to admit defeat entirely..........?

Just because you are prolly a half wit, it doesn't mean all blokes are . More men have been Nobel Prizewinners etc.




Than the hired male counterpart

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Posted by olymbios on 03-19-12 06:27 PM:

I hate to kill the pseudo-feminist buzz but this article references two well-known studies that measured morning testosterone and cortisol levels in traders and found that higher testosterone equated to greater profits (and risks).

http://www.drugs.com/news/testoster...ance-11767.html


Posted by spd on 03-19-12 06:33 PM:


Quote from joannasmith:

This is sexist. I take offense.



You start a dumb thread and get offended by dumb responses?


Posted by bc1 on 03-19-12 08:00 PM:


Quote from spd:

You start a dumb thread and get offended by dumb responses?



Just what I noticed. She started a sexist thread with a sexist question and her first post is a sexist answer. She was just trying to start a war of the sexes by baiting everyone with her question. She also ignored Baron's beginning thread as there is no basis for crap like her question and answer to be on the trading forum. Mods should move this over to chit-chat or delete it. I say delete it. Don't want to open the door to her next question dealing with religion, race, creed, color, etc.


Posted by bwolinsky on 03-19-12 08:25 PM:

It's the Harvard professor argument that Women are on average smarter, while the smartest in science are practically always men.

The genuine question I posit is whether there are any known great women investors, and there's not. I don't know of one.

(Sorry, girls, there are no George Soros, Warren Buffet female counterparts).

This supports mathematical modelling and the strategems that are usually always devised by male quants, traded by male traders, and rarely do those traders find female quants wrote the codes they use.

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Posted by Gueco on 03-19-12 08:29 PM:

I trade in a real trading room in one of the biggest corporations in the world. I have seen many women come and go, in general they don't last.

They don't like the stress, they lack the analytical skills and the willingness to make tough decisions and think independently. The only thing they excel at is at following rules, other people's rules.

They usually end up leaving for middle or back office.


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-19-12 08:40 PM:


Quote from olymbios:

I hate to kill the pseudo-feminist buzz but this article references two well-known studies that measured morning testosterone and cortisol levels in traders and found that higher testosterone equated to greater profits (and risks).

http://www.drugs.com/news/testoster...ance-11767.html



If men were like women , less of them would lose.Look at those big swingers blowing their accounts by taking 10 lot risks on $20k accounts.Men tend to take more risk for more reward , and sometimes crazy risks , just to show who is daddy.

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Posted by philbloom on 03-19-12 08:46 PM:

I wonder how good eunuchs and tranvestites are as traders?

Somewhere in between men and women I presume?


Posted by Gueco on 03-19-12 08:48 PM:

This reminds me of research studies saying that women drive better than man when in fact everyone knows it is not the case.

Women can't even park their car properly !

It just a fashionable thing now to bash man and praise women. You can see it in Hollywood too.


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-19-12 09:14 PM:


Quote from Gueco:

This reminds me of research studies saying that women drive better than man when in fact everyone knows it is not the case.

Women can't even park their car properly !

It just a fashionable thing now to bash man and praise women. You can see it in Hollywood too.



The trend in hollywood is towads Gigolo movies , traders with blown accounts and Gecko movies.Or movies about the Wall street men blowing the entire financial system with something called trading

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Posted by Gueco on 03-19-12 09:30 PM:

In Hollywood movies now when a woman betrays a men its his fault for not pleasing her enough and making her happy. When it is a men, he is just a pig with no self-control.

Women are always intelligent and responsible, man are childish and immature.

It's just a silly cultural trend that is also now also being reflected in stupid research papers.


Posted by sheda on 03-19-12 09:34 PM:


Men tend to take more risk for more reward , and sometimes crazy risks , just to show who is daddy.


Like mankind is the daddy of planet earth? Bot no we should have stayed in caves and done risk managment!

Your example of 10 lot risks on a $20k account, is actually annoying to read...


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-20-12 11:26 AM:


Quote from sheda:

Like mankind is the daddy of planet earth? Bot no we should have stayed in caves and done risk managment!

Your example of 10 lot risks on a $20k account, is actually annoying to read...



You should read the other posts of 500 lot traders on $1m account , the boasting big swinging dicks also boast about size and and the pigeons sitting on their trend line , shaking the trend.Ever heard them boast about their trades and the women they pull?

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Posted by TILT2 on 03-20-12 01:13 PM:

Yes. I often trust women's intuition.


Posted by Humpy on 03-20-12 01:45 PM:

We men may be better at just about everything but to get them to do anything of any use, one can't of course mention it.
Diplomacy and crawling is the order of the day or else !!
And don't you forget it.


Posted by trendlover on 03-20-12 02:04 PM:

If almost all the traders in the world are men, than all the big winners are men (and) all the big losers are men too.

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Posted by emg on 03-20-12 02:21 PM:

What demographic is most likely to lose in trading?


http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...threadid=219520

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Posted by sheda on 03-20-12 03:17 PM:


You should read the other posts of 500 lot traders on $1m account , the boasting big swinging dicks also boast about size and and the pigeons sitting on their trend line , shaking the trend.Ever heard them boast about their trades and the women they pull?


Why do you equate ego with male lol, yes some male traders make known and boast of there achievements, oddly enough a female succeeding in a male dominated sector is likely to have an even worse in your face ego..

Your example of 10 lot risks on a $20k account is annoying to read because the person who does not take it over the person who does it not necessarily a better trader, if they were why would they need money managment when they could just grow there accounts at an exponential rate?

And for the person who can,or rather the men who can, according to you, are some how less because they are vocal of there daily business dealings? You have some strange hate for men..


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-20-12 03:59 PM:


Quote from sheda:

Why do you equate ego with male lol, yes some male traders make known and boast of there achievements, oddly enough a female succeeding in a male dominated sector is likely to have an even worse in your face ego..

Your example of 10 lot risks on a $20k account is annoying to read because the person who does not take it over the person who does it not necessarily a better trader, if they were why would they need money managment when they could just grow there accounts at an exponential rate?

And for the person who can,or rather the men who can, according to you, are some how less because they are vocal of there daily business dealings? You have some strange hate for men..




Trading is actually very easy and very simple , and can be executed equally well by both , in fact better by ladies cause they know how to manage their house.

Ego,phsyche and mm is all part of trader.

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Posted by sheda on 03-20-12 04:20 PM:


in fact better by ladies cause they know how to manage their house.


E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E....


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-20-12 04:26 PM:


Quote from sheda:

E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E....



Go in every woman's house , and see the bartering going on ,men give in,women always win.Men obey.

What more evidence u want?

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Posted by sheda on 03-20-12 04:27 PM:

Your an idiot and I cut ties here. good day ~


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-20-12 05:16 PM:


Quote from sheda:

Your an idiot and I cut ties here. good day ~



Like most men , you ain't got a clue how a woman's brain works.

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Posted by emg on 03-20-12 05:24 PM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

Like most men , you ain't got a clue how a woman's brain works.



Doesn't matter. The fact is:



More than 90% of SMALL TRADERS lose! They just lose!!

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Posted by Scataphagos on 03-20-12 05:28 PM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

Go in every woman's house , and see the bartering going on ,men give in,women always win.Men obey.



Of course... "power of the puss"... apparently some daddies didn't teach their little boys about it.


Posted by riskaddict on 03-20-12 05:38 PM:

Are there any good gay male traders? Or would that be the same as a woman? How about lesbians? They would probably suck worse than straight males. Maybe we should start a turtle like training program and see what floats to the top.


Posted by ammo on 03-20-12 05:57 PM:


Quote from joannasmith:

This post is highly sexist and stereotypical.

women do better on avg in school, a place where you could test m/f smarts,but in trading you need thick skin,the market will offend you 100 times a day,men have learned to shut the feelings off, women own and cherish feelings,another place to test would be driving, they are much worse drivers than men and in my opinion more aggressive,they never seem to be concerned with others on the road, so to draw a conclusion, they have the brains, the balls, but have a bigger hurdle to overcome in the emotional dept


Posted by Humpy on 03-20-12 06:21 PM:

If one was to turn the question into who makes the best traders then I would say fishermen. They have the cunning and the patience.

While the average bloke is daydreaming about sex or sport and women occupy their thoughts with fashion and bitching.


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-20-12 06:23 PM:


Quote from Humpy:

If one was to turn the question into who makes the best traders then I would say fishermen. They have the cunning and the patience.

While the average bloke is daydreaming about sex or sport and women occupy their thoughts with fashion and bitching.



Rabbis make good traders , they are highly disciplined.

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Posted by philbloom on 03-20-12 08:45 PM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

Rabbis make good traders , they are highly disciplined.



Crooked traders.


Posted by tenthousandmen on 03-20-12 09:20 PM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

yes.

They are more disciplined than the big swinging dicks who try to show their daddy balls , and finally lose them in the market.

except they don't have that thing even more requied for trading, somewhere between the ears, hair and *********.


Posted by riskbiscuit on 03-20-12 09:52 PM:

I don't think you would be able to measure a question like that. When you say better, do you mean better disciplined? This question definitely needs to be more specific to be able to be given a more specific answer.


Posted by blowingup2012 on 03-20-12 09:57 PM:

It all comes down to brokerage statements...


Posted by murray t turtle on 03-20-12 10:28 PM:

Re: Are girls better traders?


Quote from joannasmith:

I think so. Do you?


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Well yes-----on home real estate, they tend to be better traders/investors/sales, than men . Not a prediction.

But men may do better on land;
especially with real live bulls & bears.......................
Granny Smith [a female]grows siome great apples also.

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Posted by oilfxpro on 03-20-12 10:53 PM:


Quote from tenthousandmen:

except they don't have that thing even more requied for trading, somewhere between the ears, hair and *********.



Nothing is required in between as I have said any times ,only a trend following moronic system to be executed by a moron dumber than a blonde.

The testrones ged in the way!

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Posted by ksmetana on 03-20-12 10:53 PM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIVDzQmhOL0

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Posted by brokerboy on 03-20-12 11:35 PM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

I employ a female assistant , she is sharper ,more disciplined ,risk averse ,clued up and more intelligent than the male .



is she one of your 3rd world country 8k a year traders?


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-21-12 07:03 AM:


Quote from brokerboy:

is she one of your 3rd world country 8k a year traders?



Yes so is the male .

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Posted by oilfxpro on 03-21-12 07:55 AM:


Quote from emg:

Doesn't matter. The fact is:



More than 90% of SMALL TRADERS lose! They just lose!!



It does matter , men can't figure out how a woman's brain works.
The woman's brain is like the market , up one minute down next etc most men learn to cope with it , they can't master it.

Women can master a man's brain and control it , the day men learn to master their woman's brain ,they will win in the markets.

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Posted by sheda on 03-21-12 10:14 AM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

It does matter , men can't figure out how a woman's brain works.
The woman's brain is like the market , up one minute down next etc most men learn to cope with it , they can't master it.

Women can master a man's brain and control it , the day men learn to master their woman's brain ,they will win in the markets.



Great last week I HAD TO GO TO HARVARD! And this week I HAVE TO MASTER SOME MOODY BITCHES "BRAIN" before I can make any money, fuck, once upon a time I thought I just had to trade charts.

You pussy BEGGING FUCK make my stomach turn.


Posted by ocean5 on 03-21-12 10:20 AM:

I think cats would be great traders,cats,cats,cats...meowwwwww!!!


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-21-12 10:31 AM:


Quote from sheda:

Great last week I HAD TO GO TO HARVARD! And this week I HAVE TO MASTER SOME MOODY BITCHES "BRAIN" before I can make any money, fuck, once upon a time I thought I just had to trade charts.

You pussy BEGGING FUCK make my stomach turn.



If you look at correlation between indices and currencies , if the mood of indices changes ,euro gets weaker , if wall street monkeys are in bullish mood .euro has to get stronger.

Traders buy depending on moods , 80 % is phsyche.They avoid in negative atmosphere.

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Posted by sheda on 03-21-12 11:35 AM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

If you look at correlation between indices and currencies , if the mood of indices changes ,euro gets weaker , if wall street monkeys are in bullish mood .euro has to get stronger.

Traders buy depending on moods , 80 % is phsyche.They avoid in negative atmosphere.



So for a man to master the stock market he must master a womens mind because she is the epicenter of uncontroled wild emotions, yet accordding to you being this way is what makes her a better trader than her male counterpart?


Posted by J Ski on 03-21-12 11:41 AM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

Rabbis make good traders , they are highly disciplined.



They make better money human organ trading.
Why mess with something that's working good?


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-21-12 11:42 AM:


Quote from sheda:

So for a man to master the stock market he must master a womens mind because she is the epicenter of uncontroled wild emotions, yet accordding to you being this way is what makes her a better trader than her male counterpart?



The discipline comes from not participating in a zone , where normal human discipline can not be applied appropriately , because our brains are not wired to trade markets.Trading is against normal human emotions.

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Posted by sheda on 03-21-12 12:27 PM:

Your just speaking out of your ass to say something..


Posted by d08 on 03-21-12 01:26 PM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

If you look at correlation between indices and currencies , if the mood of indices changes ,euro gets weaker , if wall street monkeys are in bullish mood .euro has to get stronger.

Traders buy depending on moods , 80 % is phsyche.They avoid in negative atmosphere.



You got it all wrong. It's about perceiving others' mood, when big funds take positions collectively (either by co-operation or an accidental timing overlap), they move the markets and the individual traders who notice this trend first will reap the biggest rewards. I agree that someone somewhere who is big enough will have to be bullish/bearish to start the trend.


Posted by d08 on 03-21-12 01:39 PM:

Regarding women traders. Trading is about risk and men are designed to take on risk and either fail miserably or succeed and have the chance to multiply. Most men take risks in some form and the smarter/fitter ones have better chances of making it. If you don't collect firewood when there's a wolf in the forest then you will freeze in the winter, therefore taking some risk is necessary.
Women are natural homemakers, trying to avoid risk and provide stability in their environment. From the evolutionary standpoint, this is crucial because you don't want your offspring to die because you were away taking big risks.
Therefore, both are needed but have different functions. Women are more risk averse. Men can have too much testosterone and take on too much risk. Both can be good traders but men have the natural basis for it.


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-21-12 07:17 PM:


Quote from sheda:

Your just speaking out of your ass to say something..



Keep talking pussy cat.

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Posted by sheda on 03-21-12 07:21 PM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

[B]Keep talking pussy cat.





OO OOO OOO yes you the expert whos been in a women house and everything! lolz


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-21-12 07:27 PM:


Quote from sheda:

OO OOO OOO yes you the expert whos been in a women house and everything! lolz



MY WOMAN TAKES ME TO HEAVEN AND BACK IN THE MIDDAY SUN . thrice a day to the moon and back.

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Posted by oilfxpro on 03-21-12 07:49 PM:


Quote from sheda:

OO OOO OOO yes you the expert whos been in a women house and everything! lolz



I never went to a brothel ,if that is what you are implying , only run a house for Gigolos with blown accounts.

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Posted by VintageJulie on 03-21-12 08:36 PM:

More gut, fewer theories

I know that my boyfriend is always trying to work out elaborate theories when he trades. I trade more from the gut. I guess it's more organic. I read a LOT - whatever's free on Bloomberg, TradingFloor.com, the WSJ, ZeroHedge, Twitter feeds, basically whatever I can get - and then I just digest it all and react without thinking too much. It usually turns out better than his grand algorithms.

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Posted by oilfxpro on 03-22-12 05:19 AM:

Re: More gut, fewer theories


Quote from VintageJulie:

I know that my boyfriend is always trying to work out elaborate theories when he trades. I trade more from the gut. I guess it's more organic. I read a LOT - whatever's free on Bloomberg, TradingFloor.com, the WSJ, ZeroHedge, Twitter feeds, basically whatever I can get - and then I just digest it all and react without thinking too much. It usually turns out better than his grand algorithms.



Nice to know what works for some E T members.

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Posted by bighog on 03-23-12 12:01 PM:

http://news.yahoo.com/why-women-bet...-160407079.html

Women control the money purse. Controlling every good man is a great women............. they rule men, always have always will.


Posted by oilfxpro on 03-23-12 12:35 PM:


Quote from bighog:

http://news.yahoo.com/why-women-bet...-160407079.html

Women control the money purse. Controlling every good man is a great women............. they rule men, always have always will.



You got it all wrong

Either Women choose successful men

Or behind every successful man is a woman.

This does not apply to men with hands in their pockets.

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Posted by jnbadger on 03-23-12 01:36 PM:

Re: More gut, fewer theories


Quote from VintageJulie:

I know that my boyfriend is always trying to work out elaborate theories when he trades. I trade more from the gut. I guess it's more organic. I read a LOT - whatever's free on Bloomberg, TradingFloor.com, the WSJ, ZeroHedge, Twitter feeds, basically whatever I can get - and then I just digest it all and react without thinking too much. It usually turns out better than his grand algorithms.



Trading off of info from websites? Really? Doesn't sound much like trading to me. Hope it works for you.


Posted by riskaddict on 03-23-12 01:37 PM:

Maybe women would be better traders if they were competing against other women? Or Maybe since there aren't many women traders that is why they do better. I thought of this thread while I was sitting in the car yesterday and heard this...http://www.marketplace.org/topics/l...p-patent-filing


Posted by Wide Tailz on 03-25-12 02:41 AM:


Quote from oilfxpro:

the day men learn to master their woman's brain ,they will win in the markets.



Everyone has a resonant frequency. The successful trader can find it and get the tails that happen to present themselvez....


Posted by alexandercho on 03-25-12 05:35 AM:

Here's my issue with most traders and their understanding of psychology.

1. Don't fight your personality

2. Understand Who you Are

3. Trade based on your personality.

Example Person A is confident, energetic, eager and can take risk

Okay, Person A can trade leveraged securities, but should trade with a more discretionary trading system. Otherwise the trader will perform poorly because the strategy doesn't match the person who is executing the trades.

Example B person lacks confidence, and can't take risks

Index funds, and fixed income all the way baby

Example C Person has confidence, but cannot take risks

Growth investing

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Posted by alexandercho on 03-25-12 06:01 AM:

All too often I see people trying to adapt themselves to trading, no you adapt the markets to yourself. You're delusional if you think you can re-write your whole child hood, psychology, your experiences, biases, cultural bias, brand loyalty, the way you understand the world just because you read a couple books on trading and psychology. I think people should realize that trading is something done by people who are inclined to be traders in the first place regardless of whether you're a male or female.

Don't even delude yourself into trading before you know what trading is. Which is HIGH RISK, HARD WORK, and STRESS. Okay, maybe some guys will create some rational frame work for why it's not all of those three things. But they're just talking a whole load of BULL SH!@, because they're delusional. Trading is something you do because you're passionate about it. Without passion you're not going to make it, because it is that DAMN DIFFICULT. The people I know who suck at trading, are always the ones who can't seem to understand themselves but act as if they understand everything else.

May I ask something?

If you don't like something how the F!@K are you going to succeed at it. Some people need a reality check, they over complicate and turn what can be simple into an ambiguous topic. Realistically I've never seen a successful person at trading who hated the work. You don't like it, you won't make it.

Fact, anyone who says they are successful at trading, but don't like trading are full of bull sh*t. Next, anyone who says they don't trade, but create a trading system that automatically executes trades get a pass. Because they have just admitted they were lazy, undisciplined, and hated trading. But they adopted a strategy that matches their personality.

Now have a nice day people.

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Posted by alexandercho on 03-25-12 06:23 AM:

Also if you think trading will make you rich it can, but in life there many other ways you can become rich outside of trading. If money is your primary motivation, there are many better methods outside of trading that can fulfill those motivations. Trading is really reserved for people who are committed to it, as if it's marriage, or even a little more sacred than marriage.

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Posted by oilfxpro on 03-25-12 03:04 PM:

Boys are better Gigolos than girls.

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Posted by oilfxpro on 03-25-12 03:08 PM:

Baron trader would make a perfect gigolo , after blowing up many accounts , why not live off your women instead?

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Posted by HATEtheRisk on 04-01-12 04:48 PM:

This is just a chliche.

The best traders are computers, because they only do what they have to do - no emotions -.

Unfortunately the most traders must trade manual, but thats the only reason "why there is a market at all", because of the psychology, fear and greed of peoples emotions.

But to be the best trader, you must simply follow an easy plan and cut emotions out of yourself.

thats easier said than done, because most people who have a good plan, still lose because of not following it.

Emotions have nothing to do in a successfull traders mindset.


Posted by HATEtheRisk on 04-01-12 05:01 PM:


Quote from alexandercho:

All too often I see people trying to adapt themselves to trading, no you adapt the markets to yourself. You're delusional if you think you can re-write your whole child hood, psychology, your experiences, biases, cultural bias, brand loyalty, the way you understand the world just because you read a couple books on trading and psychology. I think people should realize that trading is something done by people who are inclined to be traders in the first place regardless of whether you're a male or female.

Don't even delude yourself into trading before you know what trading is. Which is HIGH RISK, HARD WORK, and STRESS. Okay, maybe some guys will create some rational frame work for why it's not all of those three things. But they're just talking a whole load of BULL SH!@, because they're delusional. Trading is something you do because you're passionate about it. Without passion you're not going to make it, because it is that DAMN DIFFICULT. The people I know who suck at trading, are always the ones who can't seem to understand themselves but act as if they understand everything else.

May I ask something?

If you don't like something how the F!@K are you going to succeed at it. Some people need a reality check, they over complicate and turn what can be simple into an ambiguous topic. Realistically I've never seen a successful person at trading who hated the work. You don't like it, you won't make it.

Fact, anyone who says they are successful at trading, but don't like trading are full of bull sh*t. Next, anyone who says they don't trade, but create a trading system that automatically executes trades get a pass. Because they have just admitted they were lazy, undisciplined, and hated trading. But they adopted a strategy that matches their personality.

Now have a nice day people.



Well said.

HIGH RISK, HARD WORK, and STRESS.

Thats exactly why it is a business and not gambling.

But only if you be successfull and can make at least a living out of it, otherwise its gambling.

Only if a person really love their trading, they can become winners. Successfull traders only have one thing in mind: " to succeed and become the best".


Posted by bornwarrior on 04-02-12 06:49 PM:


Quote from d08:

Regarding women traders. Trading is about risk and men are designed to take on risk and either fail miserably or succeed and have the chance to multiply. Most men take risks in some form and the smarter/fitter ones have better chances of making it. If you don't collect firewood when there's a wolf in the forest then you will freeze in the winter, therefore taking some risk is necessary.
Women are natural homemakers, trying to avoid risk and provide stability in their environment. From the evolutionary standpoint, this is crucial because you don't want your offspring to die because you were away taking big risks.
Therefore, both are needed but have different functions. Women are more risk averse. Men can have too much testosterone and take on too much risk. Both can be good traders but men have the natural basis for it.



I agree. Men might be more suited to trading because they are more prone to risks taking, yet I have seen many women outperform men in male dominated fields because of three factors:

1) They are better students because they have less "EGO".
( I don't mean they get better grades, but that they tend to be more receptive to directions.)
Our ego is what trips us most of the time.

2) They have more patience.

3) Because of lack of ego, once they "finally" get around to executing a plan (you guys know, how long it takes our ladies to leave the house), they tend to stick to it longer than we do. Probably because they are more risk averse.

But again, the sample of female traders is small, and they may not be generally as "money hungry" as we might be. But if you find that woman who wants to make money more than anything else, my money ("my whole 2 pennies") is on her.


Posted by bornwarrior on 04-07-12 11:18 PM:

Check this link out,

Compare and contrast decision making differences between the sexes and how it influences their investing.


http://www.lumosity.com/blog/stress/


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