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Are girls better traders?
I think so. Do you?
yes.
They are more disciplined than the big swinging dicks who try to show their daddy balls , and finally lose them in the market.
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How do you measure "better"? Better looking did you mean?
Impossible to tell you need two test groups of a decent size, in the male group you will find exceptional traders, average traders losers and no doubt the personality flaws we have all heard so much about. Do we have a female group of traders large enough to compare with? No.
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Impossible to tell you need two test groups of a decent size, in the male group you will find exceptional traders, average traders losers and no doubt the personality flaws we have all heard so much about. Do we have a female group of traders large enough to compare with? No.

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I am better at innovating in our trading system, but my woman is far better than I am at finding setups as they develop. Far better.
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I employ a female assistant , she is sharper ,more disciplined ,risk averse ,clued up and more intelligent than the male .![]()
Quote from sheda:
Throw ten male traders in a room and you can have from one extreme of trading status and skill to the other and everyting in between, its not as simple as " i know one " but teists do help;)
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Lets ask the question which sex is better at the sport called X. The only infomation we have to analysis this is that 95% of the participants are male. Of those who put them selves through the trials and tribulations of becoming a trader and passing the hurdles, tests and pains, 95% happen to be male?
Which sex is better at this particular activity?
+ All male minds go slightly off course at the sight of a fine pair..unless your old and impotent?
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Lets ask the question which sex is better at the sport called X. The only infomation we have to analysis this is that 95% of the participants are male. Of those who put them selves through the trials and tribulations of becoming a trader and passing the hurdles, tests and pains, 95% happen to be male?
Which sex is better at this particular activity?
+ All male minds go slightly off course at the sight of a fine pair..unless your old and impotent?![]()
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You have some irrational bias here, I have come across smart women I have come across not so smart women, I have came across really good female traders and others who fall to shit.
Without the test groups resouces and time, a lot of time, we cant tell and even with all of the above, theres only a certain point of certainty that can be reached.
female like to buy and hold, their hobbies are collections. look at their closets, tons of variety style clothes, shoes..... shopping is their hobbies
male like to get in and get out frequently, they love the short-term excitement.., they like to conquer, I do not see any males' closets are full of clothe collections. we males hate shopping.
my wife just keeps buying stocks in her ira/401k, even some drawdown, but she just keeps holding, and continue buying,... just like shopping, her IRA/401k return is better than my IRA ( I day trade it occasionally, other time sit on cash), very embrassed.
I would say females are more suitable for investment, particularly long-term. since their hobbies are shop around, compare, buy and hold. they can find fun/happiness in buying and holding, we males can not.
so in a household, better let wife handle 401k/IRA. just let a tiny unneccessity money to hushand for playing the trading game, ...
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male traders are like headless chickens in the pits , 95 % are male , so there are few fewer female losers.
Show them a pair of tits , their trading minds go off track.
pits and tits rhymes
Quote from trader198:
female like to buy and hold, their hobbies are collections. look at their closets, tons of variety style clothes, shoes..... shopping is their hobbies
male like to get in and get out frequently, they love the short-term excitement.., they like to conquer, I do not see any males' closets are full of clothe collections. we males hate shopping.
my wife just keeps buying stocks in her ira/401k, even some drawdown, but she just keeps holding, and continue buying,... just like shopping, her IRA/401k return is better than my IRA ( I day trade it occasionally, other time sit on cash), very embrassed.
I would say females are more suitable for investment, particularly long-term. since their hobbies are shop around, compare, buy and hold. they can find fun/happiness in buying and holding, we males can not.
so in a household, better let wife handle 401k/IRA. just let a tiny unneccessity money to hushand for playing the trading game, ...
I don't think gender is an issue. Proper training. Proper mind set. Have the ability to make decisions with little information very quickly, and be OK with being wrong. Treat trading as a business. Traditionally, women have not been drawn to trading in the same numbers as men, or there have been a lack of opportunity. I'm not sure.
I think my daughter, now 24 years old, would have made a better trader than me, but she took another path. She likes to sleep at night!
Bob
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Re: Are girls better traders?
Quote from joannasmith:
I think so. Do you?
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Male are far better traders, I have worked with both. The great female trades that I have worked with have been lesbian (dominant partner)
I am not saying every male is better than females, what I am saying is if you take the best males vs. the best females the males will win hands down.
Speak to any head of trading at any major IB and they will confirms this.
are "girls" better traders?
probably no better than "boys"
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"... Show them a pair of tits...
Re: Are girls better traders?
Quote from joannasmith:
I think so. Do you?
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Quote from trader198:
female like to buy and hold,
Quote from hajimow:
That is not true. Females like to buy and return the next day. Don't believe me? Go to the retail stores return desk. "Dude Seriously it is totally grose"
Based on this habit, females will just increase liquidity in the market.![]()
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Here is my logic:
90%+ of male retail traders lose
90% of woman will not touch trading
Therefore woman will have less headaches and anxiety than males and might end up with more $$
I am not sure they are better traders though.

Let's face it men are better at everything than women. Whether it's running, jumping, cooking etc. In fact women really only have the one function at which to excel and that is producing babies.
So often they make the bloke feel guilty at winning or stand on gender rights etc. to get the advantage and then try to dictate !!
A big mistake letting them even get near the top jobs.
Tits are only fat with mammary glands that produce tiny amounts of milk. Barely enough for a cuppa
Sex is vastly over rated too.
I would say women have a different mindset or attitude towards risk. To me it seems they are more conservative and risk averse.
This helps me understand why there are more men that have "made it big" in the markets. They take way more risk (especially younger guys) which produces exponential returns in some cases.
Re: Are girls better traders?
Quote from joannasmith:
I think so. Do you?
Re: Re: Are girls better traders?
Quote from 4PurposeLiving:
I believe that being female or male is probably not one of the factors most related to success.
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office: 646-545-3860
www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-morse/6/8a7/617
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ya know mods...rather than clean up the funny comments why not just put this in chit chat....ET is getting more boring every day..'bout as boring as the market. The only reason to come is for the rude crude and socially unacceptable comments.
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I employ a female assistant , she is sharper ,more disciplined ,risk averse ,clued up and more intelligent than the male .![]()
Quote from Humpy:
I think you mean .......than you .......but are not willing to admit defeat entirely..........?
Just because you are prolly a half wit, it doesn't mean all blokes are . More men have been Nobel Prizewinners etc.
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I hate to kill the pseudo-feminist buzz but this article references two well-known studies that measured morning testosterone and cortisol levels in traders and found that higher testosterone equated to greater profits (and risks).
http://www.drugs.com/news/testoster...ance-11767.html
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This is sexist. I take offense.
Quote from spd:
You start a dumb thread and get offended by dumb responses?
It's the Harvard professor argument that Women are on average smarter, while the smartest in science are practically always men.
The genuine question I posit is whether there are any known great women investors, and there's not. I don't know of one.
(Sorry, girls, there are no George Soros, Warren Buffet female counterparts).
This supports mathematical modelling and the strategems that are usually always devised by male quants, traded by male traders, and rarely do those traders find female quants wrote the codes they use.
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HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
Bud Fox
Wall Street
I trade in a real trading room in one of the biggest corporations in the world. I have seen many women come and go, in general they don't last.
They don't like the stress, they lack the analytical skills and the willingness to make tough decisions and think independently. The only thing they excel at is at following rules, other people's rules.
They usually end up leaving for middle or back office.
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I hate to kill the pseudo-feminist buzz but this article references two well-known studies that measured morning testosterone and cortisol levels in traders and found that higher testosterone equated to greater profits (and risks).
http://www.drugs.com/news/testoster...ance-11767.html
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I wonder how good eunuchs and tranvestites are as traders?
Somewhere in between men and women I presume?
This reminds me of research studies saying that women drive better than man when in fact everyone knows it is not the case.
Women can't even park their car properly !
It just a fashionable thing now to bash man and praise women. You can see it in Hollywood too.
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This reminds me of research studies saying that women drive better than man when in fact everyone knows it is not the case.
Women can't even park their car properly !
It just a fashionable thing now to bash man and praise women. You can see it in Hollywood too.
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In Hollywood movies now when a woman betrays a men its his fault for not pleasing her enough and making her happy. When it is a men, he is just a pig with no self-control.
Women are always intelligent and responsible, man are childish and immature.
It's just a silly cultural trend that is also now also being reflected in stupid research papers.
Men tend to take more risk for more reward , and sometimes crazy risks , just to show who is daddy.
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Like mankind is the daddy of planet earth? Bot no we should have stayed in caves and done risk managment!
Your example of 10 lot risks on a $20k account, is actually annoying to read...
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Yes. I often trust women's intuition.
We men may be better at just about everything but to get them to do anything of any use, one can't of course mention it.
Diplomacy and crawling is the order of the day or else !!
And don't you forget it.
If almost all the traders in the world are men, than all the big winners are men (and) all the big losers are men too.
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What demographic is most likely to lose in trading?
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...threadid=219520
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More Than 90% of Small Traders Lose. THEY JUST LOSE!!!!!
You should read the other posts of 500 lot traders on $1m account , the boasting big swinging dicks also boast about size and and the pigeons sitting on their trend line , shaking the trend.Ever heard them boast about their trades and the women they pull?
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Why do you equate ego with male lol, yes some male traders make known and boast of there achievements, oddly enough a female succeeding in a male dominated sector is likely to have an even worse in your face ego..
Your example of 10 lot risks on a $20k account is annoying to read because the person who does not take it over the person who does it not necessarily a better trader, if they were why would they need money managment when they could just grow there accounts at an exponential rate?
And for the person who can,or rather the men who can, according to you, are some how less because they are vocal of there daily business dealings? You have some strange hate for men..
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in fact better by ladies cause they know how to manage their house.
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E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E....
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Your an idiot and I cut ties here. good day ~ 
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Your an idiot and I cut ties here. good day ~![]()
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Like most men , you ain't got a clue how a woman's brain works.
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More Than 90% of Small Traders Lose. THEY JUST LOSE!!!!!
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Go in every woman's house , and see the bartering going on ,men give in,women always win.Men obey.
Are there any good gay male traders? Or would that be the same as a woman? How about lesbians? They would probably suck worse than straight males. Maybe we should start a turtle like training program and see what floats to the top.
women do better on avg in school, a place where you could test m/f smarts,but in trading you need thick skin,the market will offend you 100 times a day,men have learned to shut the feelings off, women own and cherish feelings,another place to test would be driving, they are much worse drivers than men and in my opinion more aggressive,they never seem to be concerned with others on the road, so to draw a conclusion, they have the brains, the balls, but have a bigger hurdle to overcome in the emotional dept
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This post is highly sexist and stereotypical.
If one was to turn the question into who makes the best traders then I would say fishermen. They have the cunning and the patience.
While the average bloke is daydreaming about sex or sport and women occupy their thoughts with fashion and bitching.
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If one was to turn the question into who makes the best traders then I would say fishermen. They have the cunning and the patience.
While the average bloke is daydreaming about sex or sport and women occupy their thoughts with fashion and bitching.
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Rabbis make good traders , they are highly disciplined.
except they don't have that thing even more requied for trading, somewhere between the ears, hair and *********.
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yes.
They are more disciplined than the big swinging dicks who try to show their daddy balls , and finally lose them in the market.
I don't think you would be able to measure a question like that. When you say better, do you mean better disciplined? This question definitely needs to be more specific to be able to be given a more specific answer.
It all comes down to brokerage statements...
Re: Are girls better traders?
Quote from joannasmith:
I think so. Do you?
. Not a prediction.
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except they don't have that thing even more requied for trading, somewhere between the ears, hair and *********.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIVDzQmhOL0
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I employ a female assistant , she is sharper ,more disciplined ,risk averse ,clued up and more intelligent than the male .![]()
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is she one of your 3rd world country 8k a year traders?
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Doesn't matter. The fact is:
More than 90% of SMALL TRADERS lose! They just lose!!
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It does matter , men can't figure out how a woman's brain works.
The woman's brain is like the market , up one minute down next etc most men learn to cope with it , they can't master it.
Women can master a man's brain and control it , the day men learn to master their woman's brain ,they will win in the markets.
I think cats would be great traders,cats,cats,cats...meowwwwww!!!

Quote from sheda:
Great last week I HAD TO GO TO HARVARD! And this week I HAVE TO MASTER SOME MOODY BITCHES "BRAIN" before I can make any money, fuck, once upon a time I thought I just had to trade charts.
You pussy BEGGING FUCK make my stomach turn.
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If you look at correlation between indices and currencies , if the mood of indices changes ,euro gets weaker , if wall street monkeys are in bullish mood .euro has to get stronger.
Traders buy depending on moods , 80 % is phsyche.They avoid in negative atmosphere.
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Rabbis make good traders , they are highly disciplined.
Quote from sheda:
So for a man to master the stock market he must master a womens mind because she is the epicenter of uncontroled wild emotions, yet accordding to you being this way is what makes her a better trader than her male counterpart?
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Your just speaking out of your ass to say something..
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If you look at correlation between indices and currencies , if the mood of indices changes ,euro gets weaker , if wall street monkeys are in bullish mood .euro has to get stronger.
Traders buy depending on moods , 80 % is phsyche.They avoid in negative atmosphere.
Regarding women traders. Trading is about risk and men are designed to take on risk and either fail miserably or succeed and have the chance to multiply. Most men take risks in some form and the smarter/fitter ones have better chances of making it. If you don't collect firewood when there's a wolf in the forest then you will freeze in the winter, therefore taking some risk is necessary.
Women are natural homemakers, trying to avoid risk and provide stability in their environment. From the evolutionary standpoint, this is crucial because you don't want your offspring to die because you were away taking big risks.
Therefore, both are needed but have different functions. Women are more risk averse. Men can have too much testosterone and take on too much risk. Both can be good traders but men have the natural basis for it.
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Your just speaking out of your ass to say something..
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[B]Keep talking pussy cat.
Quote from sheda:
OO OOO OOO yes you the expert whos been in a women house and everything! lolz
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Quote from sheda:
OO OOO OOO yes you the expert whos been in a women house and everything! lolz
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More gut, fewer theories
I know that my boyfriend is always trying to work out elaborate theories when he trades. I trade more from the gut. I guess it's more organic. I read a LOT - whatever's free on Bloomberg, TradingFloor.com, the WSJ, ZeroHedge, Twitter feeds, basically whatever I can get - and then I just digest it all and react without thinking too much. It usually turns out better than his grand algorithms.
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Quote from VintageJulie:
I know that my boyfriend is always trying to work out elaborate theories when he trades. I trade more from the gut. I guess it's more organic. I read a LOT - whatever's free on Bloomberg, TradingFloor.com, the WSJ, ZeroHedge, Twitter feeds, basically whatever I can get - and then I just digest it all and react without thinking too much. It usually turns out better than his grand algorithms.
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http://news.yahoo.com/why-women-bet...-160407079.html
Women control the money purse. Controlling every good man is a great women............. they rule men, always have always will. 
Quote from bighog:
http://news.yahoo.com/why-women-bet...-160407079.html
Women control the money purse. Controlling every good man is a great women............. they rule men, always have always will.![]()
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Re: More gut, fewer theories
Quote from VintageJulie:
I know that my boyfriend is always trying to work out elaborate theories when he trades. I trade more from the gut. I guess it's more organic. I read a LOT - whatever's free on Bloomberg, TradingFloor.com, the WSJ, ZeroHedge, Twitter feeds, basically whatever I can get - and then I just digest it all and react without thinking too much. It usually turns out better than his grand algorithms.
Maybe women would be better traders if they were competing against other women? Or Maybe since there aren't many women traders that is why they do better. I thought of this thread while I was sitting in the car yesterday and heard this...http://www.marketplace.org/topics/l...p-patent-filing
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the day men learn to master their woman's brain ,they will win in the markets.
Here's my issue with most traders and their understanding of psychology.
1. Don't fight your personality
2. Understand Who you Are
3. Trade based on your personality.
Example Person A is confident, energetic, eager and can take risk
Okay, Person A can trade leveraged securities, but should trade with a more discretionary trading system. Otherwise the trader will perform poorly because the strategy doesn't match the person who is executing the trades.
Example B person lacks confidence, and can't take risks
Index funds, and fixed income all the way baby
Example C Person has confidence, but cannot take risks
Growth investing
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All too often I see people trying to adapt themselves to trading, no you adapt the markets to yourself. You're delusional if you think you can re-write your whole child hood, psychology, your experiences, biases, cultural bias, brand loyalty, the way you understand the world just because you read a couple books on trading and psychology. I think people should realize that trading is something done by people who are inclined to be traders in the first place regardless of whether you're a male or female.
Don't even delude yourself into trading before you know what trading is. Which is HIGH RISK, HARD WORK, and STRESS. Okay, maybe some guys will create some rational frame work for why it's not all of those three things. But they're just talking a whole load of BULL SH!@, because they're delusional. Trading is something you do because you're passionate about it. Without passion you're not going to make it, because it is that DAMN DIFFICULT. The people I know who suck at trading, are always the ones who can't seem to understand themselves but act as if they understand everything else.
May I ask something?
If you don't like something how the F!@K are you going to succeed at it. Some people need a reality check, they over complicate and turn what can be simple into an ambiguous topic. Realistically I've never seen a successful person at trading who hated the work. You don't like it, you won't make it.
Fact, anyone who says they are successful at trading, but don't like trading are full of bull sh*t. Next, anyone who says they don't trade, but create a trading system that automatically executes trades get a pass. Because they have just admitted they were lazy, undisciplined, and hated trading. But they adopted a strategy that matches their personality.
Now have a nice day people.
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Also if you think trading will make you rich it can, but in life there many other ways you can become rich outside of trading. If money is your primary motivation, there are many better methods outside of trading that can fulfill those motivations. Trading is really reserved for people who are committed to it, as if it's marriage, or even a little more sacred than marriage.
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Boys are better Gigolos than girls.
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Baron trader would make a perfect gigolo , after blowing up many accounts , why not live off your women instead?
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This is just a chliche.
The best traders are computers, because they only do what they have to do - no emotions -.
Unfortunately the most traders must trade manual, but thats the only reason "why there is a market at all", because of the psychology, fear and greed of peoples emotions.
But to be the best trader, you must simply follow an easy plan and cut emotions out of yourself.
thats easier said than done, because most people who have a good plan, still lose because of not following it.
Emotions have nothing to do in a successfull traders mindset.
Quote from alexandercho:
All too often I see people trying to adapt themselves to trading, no you adapt the markets to yourself. You're delusional if you think you can re-write your whole child hood, psychology, your experiences, biases, cultural bias, brand loyalty, the way you understand the world just because you read a couple books on trading and psychology. I think people should realize that trading is something done by people who are inclined to be traders in the first place regardless of whether you're a male or female.
Don't even delude yourself into trading before you know what trading is. Which is HIGH RISK, HARD WORK, and STRESS. Okay, maybe some guys will create some rational frame work for why it's not all of those three things. But they're just talking a whole load of BULL SH!@, because they're delusional. Trading is something you do because you're passionate about it. Without passion you're not going to make it, because it is that DAMN DIFFICULT. The people I know who suck at trading, are always the ones who can't seem to understand themselves but act as if they understand everything else.
May I ask something?
If you don't like something how the F!@K are you going to succeed at it. Some people need a reality check, they over complicate and turn what can be simple into an ambiguous topic. Realistically I've never seen a successful person at trading who hated the work. You don't like it, you won't make it.
Fact, anyone who says they are successful at trading, but don't like trading are full of bull sh*t. Next, anyone who says they don't trade, but create a trading system that automatically executes trades get a pass. Because they have just admitted they were lazy, undisciplined, and hated trading. But they adopted a strategy that matches their personality.
Now have a nice day people.
Quote from d08:
Regarding women traders. Trading is about risk and men are designed to take on risk and either fail miserably or succeed and have the chance to multiply. Most men take risks in some form and the smarter/fitter ones have better chances of making it. If you don't collect firewood when there's a wolf in the forest then you will freeze in the winter, therefore taking some risk is necessary.
Women are natural homemakers, trying to avoid risk and provide stability in their environment. From the evolutionary standpoint, this is crucial because you don't want your offspring to die because you were away taking big risks.
Therefore, both are needed but have different functions. Women are more risk averse. Men can have too much testosterone and take on too much risk. Both can be good traders but men have the natural basis for it.
Check this link out,
Compare and contrast decision making differences between the sexes and how it influences their investing.
http://www.lumosity.com/blog/stress/
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