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Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
To the administrators :
Recent activity on your site has included significant slanderous activity involving my posts. For example, quoting out of context,
and embelleshing what has been said to distort my message. As of today, several posters have attacked me personally including death threats and overall libelous content.
This will be stopping today. What I am requesting immediately is the deletion of every single post in my history, and the removal of my account from this site. If you do not do this, I will be consulting a lawyer with respect to sueing your site for character defamation.
Removal of my posting history is necessary to prevent the ongoing slander approach being used by several posters on this site.
Please take this request seriously, recent legislation in our country has shown that this kind of online character assassination is illegal and actionable by law.
Nine Ender...let me see if I get this right? You are upset that your anonymous character is being defamed?
ES
whoa, i understand being upset but your real identity is secret, this is only a screen name! there is no way this (potential) lawsuit has any merit?
Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from Nine_Ender:
To the administrators :
Recent activity on your site has included significant slanderous activity involving my posts. For example, quoting out of context, and embellishing what has been said to distort my message. As of today, several posters have attacked me personally including death threats and overall libelous content.
Quote from ElectricSavant:
Nine Ender...let me see if I get this right? You are upset that your anonymous character is being defamed?
ES
Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from Nine_Ender:
To the administrators :
Recent activity on your site has included significant slanderous activity involving my posts. For example, quoting out of context,
and embelleshing what has been said to distort my message. As of today, several posters have attacked me personally including death threats and overall libelous content.
This will be stopping today. What I am requesting immediately is the deletion of every single post in my history, and the removal of my account from this site. If you do not do this, I will be consulting a lawyer with respect to sueing your site for character defamation.
Removal of my posting history is necessary to prevent the ongoing slander approach being used by several posters on this site.
Please take this request seriously, recent legislation in our country has shown that this kind of online character assassination is illegal and actionable by law.
I think we have a roommate for bearice.
Delusions of grandeur? Check.
Crazed threats? Check.
Yeesh.
Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from Nine_Ender:
Recent activity on your site has included significant slanderous activity involving my posts...
See PM.
Thanks,
Joe
Re: Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from Lucrum:
If that bothers you, you might consider staying out of the P & R forum.
Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from Nine_Ender:
To the administrators :
Recent activity on your site has included significant slanderous activity involving my posts. For example, quoting out of context,
and embelleshing what has been said to distort my message. As of today, several posters have attacked me personally including death threats and overall libelous content.
This will be stopping today. What I am requesting immediately is the deletion of every single post in my history, and the removal of my account from this site. If you do not do this, I will be consulting a lawyer with respect to sueing your site for character defamation.
Removal of my posting history is necessary to prevent the ongoing slander approach being used by several posters on this site.
Please take this request seriously, recent legislation in our country has shown that this kind of online character assassination is illegal and actionable by law.
Haha! I wouldnt respond to this. The original poster is clearly a troll. Is anyone really taking this seriously? If you are taking it seriously, then you fell for the trap.
Quote from chaosclarity:
Haha! I wouldnt respond to this. The original poster is clearly a troll. Is anyone really taking this seriously? If you are taking it seriously, then you fell for the trap.
They are figments of your imagination...
Quote from Lucrum:
Where do these people come from?
Quote from ElectricSavant:
They are figments of your imagination...
Quote from ElectricSavant:
Nine Ender...let me see if I get this right? You are upset that your anonymous character is being defamed?
ES
Well..nine...I hope that you can resolve your issues...You are always welcome here in ET.
Just a little word of advice....not that you need it....Try to take public anonymous forums with a grain of salt...I like to post satire in these forums and really have a great time doing it.
As far as trading...well this is the internet....you have to separate the wheat from the chaff..
Also...we have the chat and politics and religion forum to be able to put some chaff there...if you hang out there too long the wheat cannot grow or prosper...
ES
Quote from Nine_Ender:
What is the point of this site if :
1. Legitimate successful trading strategies and calls get
brought up by idiots, quoted out of context, and discussed
in terms of being losing strategies and calls ?
2. Historical posts and quoted in part by others and in some
cases even edited by others and presented as being the
authors. One example on this thread already.
3. The majority of the posts on this site are traders with
bearish sentiment trying to bully all traders who disagree
with them off the site. You have at least a dozen regulars
on here ( mostly gold bugs and economic "geniuses" ) who
feel it is there role to criticize any post that discusses a
long trade or potential market move up.
Recently, the venom with which some posters have pursued strategy #3 has reached outrageous proportions. I stopped posting but noted in two threads I was attributed with trades or calls that do not exist, and defended my position as any rational person has the right to do. What has occurred since can only be characterized by a lot of dishonest lying and an increasingly desperate attempt to push agendas no matter how distasteful and ignorant the method.
As I said before, you must be proud. What a site. The exodus of competant people from this site is obvious, and I have no need to be here anymore.
Quote from ElectricSavant:
Well..nine...I hope that you can resolve your issues...You are always welcome here in ET.
Just a little word of advice....not that you need it....Try to take public anonymous forums with a grain of salt...I like to post satire in these forums and really have a great time doing it.
As far as trading...well this is the internet....you have to separate the wheat from the chaff..
Also...we have the chat and politics and religion forum to be able to put some chaff there...if you hang out there too long the wheat cannot grow or prosper...
ES
Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from Nine_Ender:
To the administrators :
Recent activity on your site has included significant slanderous activity involving my posts. For example, quoting out of context,
and embelleshing what has been said to distort my message. As of today, several posters have attacked me personally including death threats and overall libelous content.
This will be stopping today. What I am requesting immediately is the deletion of every single post in my history, and the removal of my account from this site. If you do not do this, I will be consulting a lawyer with respect to sueing your site for character defamation.
Removal of my posting history is necessary to prevent the ongoing slander approach being used by several posters on this site.
Please take this request seriously, recent legislation in our country has shown that this kind of online character assassination is illegal and actionable by law.
Re: Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from budcampbell:
Registered: Sep 2011
Posts: 6
+1 best advice on the entire website.
Quote from atticus:
You f*ck puppies.
Re: Re: Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from Lucrum:
You've read the entire website already?
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Quote from chaosclarity:
Haha! I wouldnt respond to this. The original poster is clearly a troll. Is anyone really taking this seriously? If you are taking it seriously, then you fell for the trap.
Re: Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from atticus:
You f*ck puppies.
800+ posts and you are just now getting threats?
Wow
LOL
800+ posts and you are just now getting threats? [/QUOTE]
Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from Nine_Ender:
.... If you do not do this, I will be consulting a lawyer with respect to sueing your site for character defamation....
Poor Nine Ender. 
Quote from Nine_Ender:
What is the point of this site if :
1. Legitimate successful trading strategies and calls get
brought up by idiots, quoted out of context, and discussed
in terms of being losing strategies and calls ?
2. Historical posts and quoted in part by others and in some
cases even edited by others and presented as being the
authors. One example on this thread already.
3. The majority of the posts on this site are traders with
bearish sentiment trying to bully all traders who disagree
with them off the site. You have at least a dozen regulars
on here ( mostly gold bugs and economic "geniuses" ) who
feel it is there role to criticize any post that discusses a
long trade or potential market move up.
Recently, the venom with which some posters have pursued strategy #3 has reached outrageous proportions. I stopped posting but noted in two threads I was attributed with trades or calls that do not exist, and defended my position as any rational person has the right to do. What has occurred since can only be characterized by a lot of dishonest lying and an increasingly desperate attempt to push agendas no matter how distasteful and ignorant the method.
As I said before, you must be proud. What a site. The exodus of competant people from this site is obvious, and I have no need to be here anymore.
Quote from Lucrum:
Where do these people come from?
__________________
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
Bud Fox
Wall Street
Quote from Mvector:
Move on to constructive endeavours in your life - why do you choose to engage in conflict - remember, it is always a chioce that YOU make.
The longer you stay as your current alias the more you lose - and that would again be your choice.
The real question is - are you making good constructive choices these days in your life?
Hmmmm?
If you keep engaging here and offer any additional response you lose again - leave now and show the true power of self control - and we will all thank you for that in advance!
Quote from Nine_Ender:
One constructive choice is to reduce my posts and refrain from posting trading ideas in most cases.
Quote from atticus:
And deprive us of the Grail that is fading nine_ender?
RIMM at 15.00.
$72 by April 2011: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...rim#post3052936
Quote from Nine_Ender:
I invested my own money in a few hundred call options and made a fair bit.
Long RIMM here at 15.11. Stop at $13.
BE ADVISED: Nine_Ender and bc1 are sockpuppets.
Grand Supercycle:
As a member of the Elite Trader community, you agreed to abide by common membership rules and procedures, and that includes that you do not troll other members. Your campaign against others here on ET is, in my opinion at least, trolling.
You resurrect a stale thread to call out a member. You are consistently posting after certain members trying to "call them out" with your vendettas.
I would invite you to reflect upon your behavior.
__________________
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bone...
you made me realize how embarrassed I am. We call ourselves traders...
ES
Quote from bone:
Grand Supercycle:
As a member of the Elite Trader community, you agreed to abide by common membership rules and procedures, and that includes that you do not troll other members. Your campaign against others here on ET is, in my opinion at least, trolling.
You resurrect a stale thread to call out a member. You are consistently posting after certain members trying to "call them out" with your vendettas.
I would invite you to reflect upon your behavior.
Please note I did not initiate any conflict with Nine_Ender.
Nine_Ender is solely responsible as he/she chose to troll my threads and stalk me.
Stalkers are creepy and need help.
WARNING: bc1 and Nine_Ender are sockpuppets.
Quote from GrandSupercycle:
WARNING: bc1 and Nine_Ender are sockpuppets.
__________________
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
Bud Fox
Wall Street
02-11-12
bwolinsky states:
'This is a lie.You don't make a "Apple crash" call if you're not saying you shouldn't be in it or go short.'
bwolinsky,
Like Nine_Ender you also conflate TA analysis with trading.
This demonstrates intentional malicious conduct and/or appalling ignorance by yourself.
I made no AAPL trade recommendation - short or long.
It will crash eventually but there is no sell signal at present.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...threadid=236316
BTW I didn't know you're a stockbroker like bhardy307.
Are your clients aware of how you conduct yourself on public forums ?
There seem to be a few brokers on ET with a long only bias and no TA knowledge.
Not a good recipe in a long term bear market.
And we all know how brokers earn money - via sales commission.
Not trading...
[disclosure as per http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com...nal-exuberance/ - no AAPL position held]
Another blatant lie from Nine_Ender :
Throw in your most recent call, for AAPL to Crash, the comedy never stops.
How much is AAPL hurting since your short call ?
One of the strongest up moves on the whole market, and you were saying go short.
Please note I did not initiate the conflict with Nine_Ender.
Nine_Ender is solely responsible as he/she chose to troll my threads and stalk me.
Stalkers are creepy and need help.
Quote from GrandSupercycle:
02-11-12
bwolinsky states:
'This is a lie.You don't make a "Apple crash" call if you're not saying you shouldn't be in it or go short.'
bwolinsky,
Like Nine_Ender you also conflate TA analysis with trading.
This demonstrates intentional malicious conduct and/or appalling ignorance by yourself.
I made no AAPL trade recommendation - short or long.
It will crash eventually but there is no sell signal at present.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...threadid=236316
BTW I didn't know you're a stockbroker like bhardy307.
Are your clients aware of how you conduct yourself on public forums ?
There seem to be a few brokers on ET with a long only bias and no TA knowledge.
Not a good recipe in a long term bear market.
And we all know how brokers earn money - via sales commission.
Not trading...
[disclosure as per http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com...nal-exuberance/ - no AAPL position held]
__________________
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
Bud Fox
Wall Street
Brokerage / management fees / commissions...
Stockbrokers / investment advisors...
I'm not interested in semantics.
We all know how brokers obtain income and it's not from trading their own account.
Case closed.
P.S. are your clients aware of how you conduct yourself on public forums ?
Please note I did not initiate conflict with bwolinsky.
bwolinsky is solely responsible as he/she chose to troll my threads and stalk me.
Quote from GrandSupercycle:
Brokerage / management fees / commissions...
Stockbrokers / investment advisors...
I'm not interested in semantics.
We all know how brokers obtain income and it's not from trading their own account.
Case closed.
__________________
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
Bud Fox
Wall Street
Quote from GrandSupercycle:
Brokerage / management fees / commissions...
Stockbrokers / investment advisors...
I'm not interested in semantics.
We all know how brokers obtain income and it's not from trading their own account.
Case closed.
P.S. are your clients aware of how you conduct yourself on public forums ?
Please note I did not initiate conflict with bwolinsky.
bwolinsky is solely responsible as he/she chose to troll my threads and stalk me.
__________________
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
Bud Fox
Wall Street
Quote from GrandSupercycle:
Brokerage / management fees / commissions...
Stockbrokers / investment advisors...
I'm not interested in semantics.
We all know how brokers obtain income and it's not from trading their own account.
Case closed.
P.S. are your clients aware of how you conduct yourself on public forums ?
Please note I did not initiate conflict with bwolinsky.
bwolinsky is solely responsible as he/she chose to troll my threads and stalk me.
bwolinsky,
Like Nine_Ender you repeatedly conflate TA analysis with actual trades.
This demonstrates intentional malicious conduct and/or appalling ignorance by yourself.
I made no AAPL trade recommendation - short or long.
It will crash eventually but there is no sell signal at present.
P.S. are your clients aware of how you conduct yourself on public forums ?
[disclosure as per http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com...nal-exuberance/ - no AAPL position held]
Brokerage / management fees / commissions...
Stockbrokers / investment advisors...
I'm not interested in semantics.
We all know how brokers obtain income and it's not from trading their own account.
Case closed.
Please note I did not initiate conflict with bwolinsky.
bwolinsky is solely responsible as he/she chose to troll my threads and stalk me.
Quote from GrandSupercycle:
bwolinsky,
Like Nine_Ender you repeatedly conflate TA analysis with actual trades.
This demonstrates intentional malicious conduct and/or appalling ignorance by yourself.
I made no AAPL trade recommendation - short or long.
It will crash eventually but there is no sell signal at present.
P.S. are your clients aware of how you conduct yourself on public forums ?
[disclosure as per http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com...nal-exuberance/ - no AAPL position held]
Please note I did not initiate conflict with bwolinsky.
bwolinsky is solely responsible as he/she chose to troll my threads and stalk me.
__________________
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
Bud Fox
Wall Street
Quote from GrandSupercycle:
bwolinsky,
Like Nine_Ender you repeatedly conflate TA analysis with actual trades.
This demonstrates intentional malicious conduct and/or appalling ignorance by yourself.
I made no AAPL trade recommendation - short or long.
It will crash eventually but there is no sell signal at present.
P.S. are your clients aware of how you conduct yourself on public forums ?
[disclosure as per http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com...nal-exuberance/ - no AAPL position held]
Brokerage / management fees / commissions...
Stockbrokers / investment advisors...
I'm not interested in semantics.
We all know how brokers obtain income and it's not from trading their own account.
Case closed.
Please note I did not initiate conflict with bwolinsky.
bwolinsky is solely responsible as he/she chose to troll my threads and stalk me.
Quote from bwolinsky:
You are an idiot. You don't know a fucking thing about this industry. So shut the fuck up!
Brokers receive commissions. Investment Advisors receive fees as do commodity trading advisors. You know nothing about trading or the financial industry, and this proves it.
Case Closed!
__________________
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
Bud Fox
Wall Street
bwolinsky,
Like Nine_Ender you repeatedly conflate TA analysis with actual trades.
This demonstrates intentional malicious conduct and/or appalling ignorance by yourself.
I made no AAPL trade recommendation - short or long.
P.S. are your clients aware of how you conduct yourself on public forums ?
[disclosure as per http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com...nal-exuberance/ - no AAPL position held]
Brokerage / management fees / commissions...
Stockbrokers / investment advisors...
I'm not interested in semantics.
We all know how brokers obtain income and it's not from trading their own account.
Case closed.
Please note I did not initiate conflict with bwolinsky.
bwolinsky is solely responsible as he/she chose to troll my threads and stalk me.
Grand Supercycle:
As a member of the Elite Trader community, you agreed to abide by common membership rules and procedures, and that includes that you do not troll other members. Your campaign against others here on ET is, in my opinion at least, trolling.
You are consistently posting after certain members trying to "call them out" with your vendettas.
I would invite you to reflect upon your behavior.
__________________
Spread, Relative Value, and Correlation Trading Instruction from a Professional Trader. The only thing that matters are Clients making money IN LIVE MARKETS. Why not interview my clients for yourself on an independent basis. My typical client is an outright directional trader looking to pick up an industry-recognized specialty technique. http://www.spreadprofessor.com
Quote from bone:
Grand Supercycle:
As a member of the Elite Trader community, you agreed to abide by common membership rules and procedures, and that includes that you do not troll other members. Your campaign against others here on ET is, in my opinion at least, trolling.
You are consistently posting after certain members trying to "call them out" with your vendettas.
I would invite you to reflect upon your behavior.
Quote from Nine_Ender:
I've put Grand_Super_Cycle, Nitro, Denner, ForexForex, and Atticus on ignore. As a group, they are far more annoying then useful to a trader. A very mediocre group to say the least. The lies, frauds, and "jokes" are getting more prevelant again.
In the special case of Atticus, he may have knowledge in his narrow specialty, but when he stops over into other areas ( including some option plays ) he assumes knowledge he doesn't have. This is not a problem, except that he then becomes arrogant and testy. Not a good character trait.
The site suffers when 50% of the Trading area occurs in threads started by two of these individuals. Even then, this Grand guy starts "spreading his seed" onto other threads when people ignore him. As a sponsor, I would put heat on the site to turf the guy he's an obvious fraud and a black mark on your industry.
Quote from Nine_Ender:
I've put Grand_Super_Cycle, Nitro, Denner, ForexForex, and Atticus on ignore. As a group, they are far more annoying then useful to a trader. A very mediocre group to say the least. The lies, frauds, and "jokes" are getting more prevelant again.
In the special case of Atticus, he may have knowledge in his narrow specialty, but when he stops over into other areas ( including some option plays ) he assumes knowledge he doesn't have. This is not a problem, except that he then becomes arrogant and testy. Not a good character trait.
The site suffers when 50% of the Trading area occurs in threads started by two of these individuals. Even then, this Grand guy starts "spreading his seed" onto other threads when people ignore him. As a sponsor, I would put heat on the site to turf the guy he's an obvious fraud and a black mark on your industry.
__________________
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
Bud Fox
Wall Street
Quote from Nine_Ender:
In the special case of Atticus, he may have knowledge in his narrow specialty, but when he stops over into other areas ( including some option plays ) he assumes knowledge he doesn't have. This is not a problem, except that he then becomes arrogant and testy. Not a good character trait.
Quote from Nine_Ender:
In the special case of Atticus, he may have knowledge in his narrow specialty, but when he stops over into other areas ( including some option plays ) he assumes knowledge he doesn't have. This is not a problem, except that he then becomes arrogant and testy. Not a good character trait.
Quote from newwurldmn:
Who will I listen to on options: ex-O'Connor guy or you?
Secondly, why are you advertising that you put someone on ignore? It's like a little girl who says, "I'm not talking to you. You hear me! I'm not talking to you. DOn't even try talking to me! I'm not going to talk to you anymore!"
__________________
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
Bud Fox
Wall Street
Quote from Tsing Tao:
Atticus has forgotten more than you have the capacity to learn in ten lifetimes.
Quote from newwurldmn:
Who will I listen to on options: ex-O'Connor guy or you?
Secondly, why are you advertising that you put someone on ignore? It's like a little girl who says, "I'm not talking to you. You hear me! I'm not talking to you. DOn't even try talking to me! I'm not going to talk to you anymore!"
Quote from Nine_Ender:
Atticus and I have expertise in our OWN areas of options trading.
From what he's saying, it appears to be directional bets using long calls / puts, and other combinations.
This is a very interesting area of speculation used by a few subscription services out there. I played with it for a couple years. Nice thing is you don't need a stop, if you can control your position size; also it is great for pyramiding into a position as you are accumulating on decaying volatility. Then the position pops out of consolidation and you double your money in a few days, sometimes much more if you can hang on. I haven't perfected the exit strategy other than selling after a huge candle when volatility is at its peak.
Of course you can also lose your stake.
Many many possibilities here! It's a very cool tactic, but I still haven't mastered it after 2 years of goofing off.

Quote from newguy05:
What's your area of expertise in options trading? Do understand losing money isnt considered a valued expertise.
Quote from Nine_Ender:
Pure bs. The stupidity of making such claims is pretty obvious to anybody who is highly educated and experienced in this field.
Atticus and I have expertise in our OWN areas of options trading.
They are CLEARLY different areas. The most recent comments from the peanut gallery only illustrate the lack of experience some others have in EITHER area. If you were experienced, you'd know they are different areas of expertise.
The most successful trades in the options area are directional in nature. The most reliable options trades are more exotic in nature. NEITHER is right or wrong, every trade has unique characteristics. Risk and reward.
What an epic thread.
Quote from Nine_Ender:
If you were truly interested in profitable options trading, you'd listen to BOTH of us and decide what kind of options trading is your interest.
Look, I can tell you without a doubt that there is an incredible amount of stock manipulation out there. Monthly options expiry is a hotbed for such activity. This is information that can save a trader a lot of money. However, it seems it is often impossible to present this information to some audiences.
I can accept this reality. Can you ? Why are you on this thread putting up these argumentative ideas in the Feedback section ?
Feedback is for the Site Owners.
Quote from Nine_Ender:
If you were truly interested in profitable options trading, you'd listen to BOTH of us and decide what kind of options trading is your interest.
Look, I can tell you without a doubt that there is an incredible amount of stock manipulation out there. Monthly options expiry is a hotbed for such activity. This is information that can save a trader a lot of money. However, it seems it is often impossible to present this information to some audiences.
I can accept this reality. Can you ? Why are you on this thread putting up these argumentative ideas in the Feedback section ?
Feedback is for the Site Owners.
__________________
wealth effect: stock market higher, health care costs higher, unemployment higher, food/energy prices higher, taxes higher, poverty higher, bonuses higher, foreclosures higher, homelessness higher, crime rate higher, bankruptcies higher, unsold cars higher... it's economics 101
Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from Nine_Ender:
To the administrators :
Recent activity on your site has included significant slanderous activity involving my posts. For example, quoting out of context,
and embelleshing what has been said to distort my message. As of today, several posters have attacked me personally including death threats and overall libelous content.
This will be stopping today. What I am requesting immediately is the deletion of every single post in my history, and the removal of my account from this site. If you do not do this, I will be consulting a lawyer with respect to sueing your site for character defamation.
Removal of my posting history is necessary to prevent the ongoing slander approach being used by several posters on this site.
Please take this request seriously, recent legislation in our country has shown that this kind of online character assassination is illegal and actionable by law.
Quote from bwolinsky:
I really would say the least best person to ignore in the forums may actually be atticus.
Quote from newwurldmn:
He arena of expertise is in thinking he knows more than everyone else while getting the mechanics of delta hedging wrong.
Quote from Nine_Ender:
Arrogant specialists with limited people skills and communication skills aren't always good coaches or mentors.
__________________
wealth effect: stock market higher, health care costs higher, unemployment higher, food/energy prices higher, taxes higher, poverty higher, bonuses higher, foreclosures higher, homelessness higher, crime rate higher, bankruptcies higher, unsold cars higher... it's economics 101
Quote from Nine_Ender:
I tend to differentiate between practical ideas and plans versus someone just trying to impress people.
This is one of the best threads I've read -- troll or not!
Quote from Nine_Ender:
I've put Grand_Super_Cycle, Nitro, Denner, ForexForex, and Atticus on ignore. As a group, they are far more annoying then useful to a trader. A very mediocre group to say the least. The lies, frauds, and "jokes" are getting more prevelant again.
In the special case of Atticus, he may have knowledge in his narrow specialty, but when he stops over into other areas ( including some option plays ) he assumes knowledge he doesn't have. This is not a problem, except that he then becomes arrogant and testy. Not a good character trait.
The site suffers when 50% of the Trading area occurs in threads started by two of these individuals. Even then, this Grand guy starts "spreading his seed" onto other threads when people ignore him. As a sponsor, I would put heat on the site to turf the guy he's an obvious fraud and a black mark on your industry.
Nine_Ender has lost his marbles, gone off the deep end, been pushed over the edge, gone completely insane, etc.
Quote from tenthousandmen:
What's the gripe with atticus besides the over-testostrone-fueled posts? He at least seems to know what he's talking about and has some good insight
Quote from atticus:
I assume this was your point? Wrong forum.
Good or bad you are defined by the utility of your posts. This site happens to be a trading forum. You take credit for specific calls that don't exist and ignore the calls that blow up. You're not terribly bright and lack any market knowledge, so I guess we are all wondering why you are here? You like abuse?
Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
Quote from Nine_Ender:
To the administrators :
Recent activity on your site has included significant slanderous activity involving my posts. For example, quoting out of context,
and embelleshing what has been said to distort my message. As of today, several posters have attacked me personally including death threats and overall libelous content.
This will be stopping today. What I am requesting immediately is the deletion of every single post in my history, and the removal of my account from this site. If you do not do this, I will be consulting a lawyer with respect to sueing your site for character defamation.
Removal of my posting history is necessary to prevent the ongoing slander approach being used by several posters on this site.
Please take this request seriously, recent legislation in our country has shown that this kind of online character assassination is illegal and actionable by law.
Quote from Nine_Ender:
Look, anyone can make baseless random claims about other people like you are here. I could post you are an expert on ass fucking guys, it has as much validity as your post here.
Quote from Nine_Ender:
You're evil buddy. You'd post anything if you thought somehow you were winning something. I've seen through your act from day one. Its all bs.
So now you try piling bigger lies on bigger lies because somehow that makes you a big man ? Sorry, mate, it just makes you a giant loser.
Quote from Nine_Ender:
The guys an immoral bastard very clearly. He's very territorial because he lacks the ability to accept others. To him, its a competition he wants to win at any cost. Some of the other guys are just inexperienced or jokers; Atticus is evil.
If you want to know why some of the US banks went under, its because some of these winner take all immoral personalities have taken a huge foothold in the US.
Look at how he took one of my posts and reworded it attributing it to me. This is immoral behaviour. Anything to win, he's stomp on his own mother to get ahead. We all know people like this.
Not many have the sheer audacity to be so blatant about it.
Quote from Nine_Ender:
The guys an immoral bastard very clearly. He's very territorial because he lacks the ability to accept others. To him, its a competition he wants to win at any cost. Some of the other guys are just inexperienced or jokers; Atticus is evil.
If you want to know why some of the US banks went under, its because some of these winner take all immoral personalities have taken a huge foothold in the US.
Look at how he took one of my posts and reworded it attributing it to me. This is immoral behaviour. Anything to win, he's stomp on his own mother to get ahead. We all know people like this.
Not many have the sheer audacity to be so blatant about it.
Re: Re: Slander and Fraud concerning my Account
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Quote from newwurldmn:
You are right. You were wrong about something very simple (Options 201 type stuff) and had the arrogance to think you are right and everyone else is wrong and uninformed. Atticus makes some good posts. He gets into tiffs with people who pretend to know something they clearly do not, but is helpful and engaging otherwise.
Anyho, your knowledge and his knowledge on options are not equal. And there is little to be learned from you there. There might be something useful you have to offer, but I haven't seen it yet.
This is my last post in this thread as I'm not going to try to convince you. You are argumentative like a little child who doesn't get his way. If I reply to your next next angry reply this will just continue. Grow a thicker skin and try to learn more instead of assuming you are smart and everyone else is dumb. There are a lot of closet smart people here and you and your bank account will be better for it.
Quote from tenthousandmen:
Sometimes people get carried away one way or the other, we all do it. calling him a bad person is a stretch when you don't know him in person. Loosen up, cut him and yourself some slack and see if he actually has insight below the occasional high school football player attitude (or whatever you want to call it) - maybe a little parenting for you NE would be a plus
Quote from Nine_Ender:
I'm done with this scene, there are several obvious sociopaths on here ( maybe that makes for effective traders sometimes ? ).
Atticus has some value in a very narrow area which I am not interested in. The juvenile attitude kills any positives in my opinion.
I truly believe he's a bad person. We don't have to live or work together so it doesn't matter. I'm competive in nature, as are some others, but there are lines being crossed that make the whole experience a negative for everyone.
Nine_ender is leaving again? I'm getting the feeling NE's going thru menopause.
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Quote from Nine_Ender:
Such a childish approach from you. Standard internet bs. Almost a template really for cookie cutter personal insulting. Argumentative ? You came onto this thread and pushed the argument hard. You and several other people. You were the instigator. Read that again. You were the instigator. You then proceeded with the personal attacks based on nothing more then the idea you want to be perceived as "right". You even protested my right to ignore argumentative people. God, you must love the drama.
Now, you insist I was "wrong". What a silly concept. I have posted NOTHING that is wrong in the options area in the last month. You've had your back up ever since I suggested markets tend to get less volatile at the end of monthly option expiry week. This is just reality. Don't take it so hard. Friday's trading was about as flat as markets ever get. This is not unusual. What an ego you have to suggest I cannot be mature unless I decide that I am "wrong".
Trading extensively on a narrow trading segment over numerous years gives someone experience and pattern recognition that cannot be learned from a textbook. Not that I'm uneducated in
finance, management accounting a minor most of my university
life.
But I should let you get back to bashing Grand on a daily basis,
and whatever else you supposably do on this forum. I could go over your posting history I guess and see what exactly you've posted that's useful, because nothing stands out at this time.
Maybe the lesson for me is you deserve Grand and this forum is the perfect place for him to dabble in his craft. Occasionally I post some calls or trades, but I reduced that activity immensely when I realized how stupid this forum can get when you post good ideas. My last call was long TSX in early August, and the idea that IBM is clearly NOT a short as of last earnings report. I also posted the fantasy "AAPL short" was a high risk position that should be cut immediately. All three calls were successful.
If you want value, I could direct you to the only option buy recommendation I posted in 2011. It was a massive winner,
One month return between 1000%-3000% depending on entry point and exit point. All those options were pretty much at their highs on expiry day, so there can be no argument that an exit point was missing. It was a call to earnings in March.
You know, I though about putting up a Journal simply listing every call I made on this site and how they turned out. But I realize there is no point, I have nothing to prove to a bunch of jokers. You'd rather play games with Grand and fantasize about Atticus as he reminisces about his winning trades ( he doesn't mention his losing trades much ).
In the end, the mature thing to do is lead by example. I've never had any other account here, I left the site for an extended period of time before, and I can do it again. I have no problem rising above the juvenile antics of posters like yourself and forget this whole scene. Are you proud of the content here ? It is what you make of it, and your recent posts are some of the stupidest, most immature ideas I've seen in a while. You don't deserve to hear good trading ideas. You deserve Grand and Nitro. When I was off the site, and came back, some days 90% of the Trading section was threads from 3 or 4 of the worst analysts/traders on this site. Good ideas cannot compete if guys like you are going to be slamming the good content. I have always been supportive of good information, there is just so little of it at times.
Enjoy your arguments I'm out of here. It will be truly pathetic if some of the jokers continue to post crap about me on here for weeks ( months? ) on end rather then focus on making money.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...threadid=237122
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I've spent over 16 hours today on this forum. I'm new and I read everything from a guy's credit spread strategy backfire on him late 2007 to someone make a mockery of himself asking admins to remove his posts...
Quote from tenthousandmen:
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...threadid=237122
IT's possible, but with all of hte other people with multipule accounts, and becaues ne is not banned, i doubt anyone will care
Quote from ForexForex:
Do you think babutime is Nine_Ender? They both have a similar writing style, and babutime shows up when Nine_Ender posts that he has had it with ET and will no longer post.
Quote from ForexForex:
Do you think babutime is Nine_Ender?
They both have a similar writing style, and babutime shows up when Nine_Ender posts that he has had it with ET and will no longer post.
Quote from GrandSupercycle:
This site is rife with sockpuppets, stalkers and trolls:
Nine_Ender
bc1
TILT2
newwurldmn
bhardy307
Tsing Tao
bwolinsky
didnt see any of his posts until you quotged them!
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In other words, anyone who calls you out as the yambag you are.
Quote from Tsing Tao:
In other words, anyone who calls you out as the yambag you are.
Like anyone that produces $100k to $200 million 2 year backtests doesn't know TA. What a fucking idiot.
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Quote from GrandSupercycle:
This site is rife with sockpuppets, stalkers and trolls:
Nine_Ender
bc1
TILT2
newwurldmn
bhardy307
Tsing Tao
bwolinsky
Quote from 377OHMS:
Yambag. Gotta remember that one.![]()
Quote from ElectricSavant:
Nine Ender...let me see if I get this right? You are upset that your anonymous character is being defamed?
ES
Quote from budcampbell:
Hilarious......various sock puppets threatening legal action.
This site is rife with sockpuppets, stalkers and trolls:
Does ET condone this conduct ?
Nine_Ender
bc1
TILT2
newwurldmn
bhardy307
Tsing Tao
bwolinsky
Quote from GrandSupercycle:
This site is rife with sockpuppets, stalkers and trolls:
Does ET condone this conduct ?
Nine_Ender
bc1
TILT2
newwurldmn
bhardy307
Tsing Tao
bwolinsky
Feb 25, 2012
EMAIL SENT TO ME BY ELITE TRADER:
'Stay Away from nine enders posts, or you will be banned.
Please put him on ignore, this will make it easier for you to stay away.
If you have any questions, please let us know'
Elite Trader Support
support@elitetrader.com
Feb 27, 2012
MY RESPONSE:
I don't like to be threatened.
Why didn't you tell Nine Ender to stay away from my posts a long ago ?
He initiated all the conflict by trolling and stalking me - as he has done to other members who got fed up and left.
Does ET condone stalking and thread hijacking ?
NINE ENDER INITIATED THE CONFLICT.
NOT ME.
FACT.
Quote from GrandSupercycle:
Feb 25, 2012
EMAIL SENT TO ME BY ELITE TRADER:
'Stay Away from nine enders posts, or you will be banned.
Please put him on ignore, this will make it easier for you to stay away.
If you have any questions, please let us know'
Elite Trader Support
support@elitetrader.com
Feb 27, 2012
MY RESPONSE:
I don't like to be threatened.
Why didn't you tell Nine Ender to stay away from my posts a long ago ?
He initiated all the conflict by trolling and stalking me - as he has done to other members who got fed up and left.
Does ET condone stalking and thread hijacking ?
NINE ENDER INITIATED THE CONFLICT.
NOT ME.
FACT.
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Brass seems to be a shill.
New this site, but my take is that people need to chill in an online forum. Don't take things too personally.
Like Nine_Ender and his sockpuppet multi nicks, bwolinsky repeatedly conflates TA analysis/commentary with actual trades.
This demonstrates intentional malicious conduct and/or appalling ignorance by bwolinsky who has no TA knowledge.
I never made any AAPL trade recommendation - short or long.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...threadid=236316
Are his broker clients or the SEC aware of this appalling conduct on public forums ?
Disclosure: no AAPL position held.
http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com...2/18/sat-feb-18
Brokerage / management fees / commissions...
Stockbrokers / investment advisors...
I'm not interested in semantics.
We all know how brokers / investment advisors obtain income and it's not from trading their own account.
Please note I did not initiate conflict with bwolinsky.
bwolinsky is solely responsible as he/she chose to troll my threads and stalk me.
This fact can not be disputed as it's the truth.
*Nine Ender Exposed*
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...threadid=239642
Baron,
Please do not threaten me.
Why not just answer the question ?
And who opened my PM's ?
And why do you permit Nine Ender and other multinics to stalk people ?
You are aware that I did not initiate any of the conflict with these trolls so why blame me ?
And why is this DISGUSTING behaviour permitted on this forum ?
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