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QuoteTracker To Be Finished End of 2011

Just got word from the company QT is toast as of end of 2011.

"Unfortunately, QT will be drawn down by the end of 2011 as TD AMERITRADE looks to consolidate its resources towards other platforms and projects."

It's gonna die.

Anyone want to buy it and keep it alive? Jerry should buy it back and make more money with it again.

The trading software market is dead. I have a friend who was trying to raise for a while some money for a project. Not even a dime. You can get 10 Million if you propose a new add-on for facebook or some social network. Nothing for trading. Most platforms provide most of the tools traders need. There is no need for anything else except maybe some AI or data mining. More importantly I think, there are not many traders around. What you see according to the research of my friend are people trading mini-lots and 2K accounts in stocks and futures.

I purchased years ago a license of Tradestation for real-time for maybe about 2K. I thought at that time 2K was a reasonable price for what the program did. Now I think 2K is a lot of money for anything. This is after about 16 years.

Have we all gotten much poorer? Has money lost its purchasing power while earnings have fallen?

Too bad for QT.

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Quote from intradaybill:

More importantly I think, there are not many traders around. What you see according to the research of my friend are people trading mini-lots and 2K accounts in stocks and futures.

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Quote from Trader KGB:

Across just the US market? And did that research account for all equity traders?

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Quote from intradaybill:

The trading software market is dead. I have a friend who was trying to raise for a while some money for a project. Not even a dime. You can get 10 Million if you propose a new add-on for facebook or some social network. Nothing for trading.

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Quote from intradaybill:

More importantly, Generation Y has no money to spend for trading, they spend everything in gadgets and good time. they have no time to trade because they spend a good part of the day in facebook and twitter.

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Quote from intradaybill:

In other parts of the world, unlike in the US, young people work hard in real production, producing real goods.

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Quote from intradaybill:

IMO, systems like facebook and the likes make young people to become inert and live in a virtual world.

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Quote from garbar:

Just got word from the company QT is toast as of end of 2011.

"Unfortunately, QT will be drawn down by the end of 2011 as TD AMERITRADE looks to consolidate its resources towards other platforms and projects."

It's gonna die.

Anyone want to buy it and keep it alive? Jerry should buy it back and make more money with it again.

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Re: Re: QuoteTracker To Be Finished End of 2011

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Quote from garbar:

Anyone want to buy it and keep it alive? Jerry should buy it back and make more money with it again.

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Quote from nltro:

Well, hopefully it becomes an opensource project. Would be a superb move.

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Too bad if true, I like that program.

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Quote from nltro:
Well, hopefully it becomes an opensource project. Would be a superb move.

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That's very bad news, QT is one of the best programms I have found until now, both in terms of functionality as of efficiency.

It is also one of the few charting applications that one can connect to IB and work well on Linux.

Actually I would pay a higher monthly fee in order to be able to continue using it.
I am sure there are a lot of people who would do it, just because it is a superior program
to many others. So maybe Jerry could still make some money with it buying back?

Lately I began to have a look at AmiBroker. Seem also good, but a very different beast.
Does anyone have experience with both? How does its charting capabilities compare to QT?
Is it worth to make a change to AB, or are there better options?

I also tried Ninja some time ago, but it does not run on Linux, and even on Windows it is much slower and clumsier than QT. And it has no free floating charts...

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Quote from pescador:

Actually I would pay a higher monthly fee in order to be able to continue using it.
I am sure there are a lot of people who would do it, just because it is a superior program
to many others. So maybe Jerry could still make some money with it buying back?

Lately I began to have a look at AmiBroker. Seem also good, but a very different beast.
Does anyone have experience with both? How does its charting capabilities compare to QT?
Is it worth to make a change to AB, or are there better options?

I also tried Ninja some time ago, but it does not run on Linux, and even on Windows it is much slower and clumsier than QT. And it has no free floating charts...

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I once bought a lifetime licence for Qt. Jerry let that die with no compunction. So why should Ameritrade feel any more guilt?

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Quote from kiwi_trader:

I once bought a lifetime licence for Qt. Jerry let that die with no compunction. So why should Ameritrade feel any more guilt?

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I was using RealTIck for years for free until I tried QT. I found QT to be far better and I switched to QT. I would be willing to pay a monthly fee for the continued use of QT. I will also close the account I have with AT when they no longer support QT. I would like to see Jerry get QT back if he wants QT.

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Quote from Catoosa:

I was using RealTIck for years for free until I tried QT. I found QT to be far better and I switched to QT. I would be willing to pay a monthly fee for the continued use of QT. I will also close the account I have with AT when they no longer support QT.

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Quote from pescador:

.....I also tried Ninja some time ago, but it does not run on Linux, and even on Windows it is much slower and clumsier than QT. And it has no free floating charts...

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Just recently had (again) a look at NT and a conversation with their support.

It's ridiculous: You can't have constant volume charts with IB backfill in this program!

That's something that QT could do for ages though it has a long standing and ennoying bug in the way it does it.


Bottomline is for me ist that NT doesn't really care about IB users.
They want you to subscribe to some extra backfill service (barcharts is apparently their favorite).

I've never used QT, what would anyone say is the best part of it? I mainly trade FX, and dabble in stocks.

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Quote from uexkuell:

Just recently had (again) a look at NT and a conversation with their support.

It's ridiculous: You can't have constant volume charts with IB backfill in this program!

That's something that QT could do for ages though it has a long standing and ennoying bug in the way it does it.


Bottomline is for me ist that NT doesn't really care about IB users.
They want you to subscribe to some extra backfill service (barcharts is apparently their favorite).

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Quote from NinjaTrader_Ray:

NinjaTrader cannot construct volume bars nor any bar that requires historical tick data when using IB as a data provider. This is because IB does not support historical tick data. If/when they do, NinjaTrader will support this.

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Well can anyone confirm this ? The OP has only 19 posts , and QT has no announcement on its website. Sounds fishy ...

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Quote from trade2live:

Well can anyone confirm this ? The OP has only 19 posts , and QT has no announcement on its website. Sounds fishy ...

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Quote from trade2live:

Well can anyone confirm this ? The OP has only 19 posts , and QT has no announcement on its website. Sounds fishy ...

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Quote from LeeD:

I doubt any of this is feasible. During good times Ameritrade paid through the throat to get QuoteTracker. I doubt they will sell it now for a fraction of the price they paid a few years back. Any gain from prospective sale is immaterial on the scale of Ameritraid revenues and losses. Further, by letting QuoteTracker die they kill off the competition.

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Quote from jeb9999:

How does that logic work?

By letting QuoteTracker die Ameritrade hands customers to the competition.

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Quote from jeb9999:

One of the problems that Ameritrade has with QuoteTracker is that the software is so good it shows how crappy the Ameritrade data feed is. Rather than provide a decent data feed they kill off the charting software.

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Quote from trade2live:

Well can anyone confirm this ? The OP has only 19 posts , and QT has no announcement on its website. Sounds fishy ...

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Quote from LeeD:

I saw a speculation elsewhere regarding why Jerry Medved left. There is no space for speculation here regarding his reasons to leave. It's the standard practice. He sold QuoteTracker for much mor emoney then he had ever expected to make from it. (Otherwise, why sell?) It is a common practice that founders who sell their business keep working for this business for 2-3 years as a condition of the sale. The buyers like this arrangement as it ensures smoothness of transition and the founders have time to pass knowledge, customer base and business contacts to whoever is taking over. This arrangement also ensures that the founders put the business on the right development track. At the end of this agrred term a founder has little incentive to stay.

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Now what?

Spend another 40 hours reevaluating my reevaluations that I do every couple years.

The choice now is cheesy charts. Cheesy, cheesier and cheesiest.

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Quote from jeb9999:

One of the problems that Ameritrade has with QuoteTracker is that the software is so good it shows how crappy the Ameritrade data feed is. Rather than provide a decent data feed they kill off the charting software.

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This is very bad. I'm royally pissed.

the tos platform is clumsy to use by comparison to qt.

Ninja, no being able to construct volume bars from IB back fill is sad. Get real guys.

Yes QT has that stupid bug where it adds any 'unidentified' volume to the last bar.

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Quote from uexkuell:

QT can and does construct volume bars from non-tick data (like IBs) for ages.

It is absolutely not necessary to have tick data to build volume bars.

Also IB is supplying historical data down to the 1 sec level.
This is for sure close enough to tick data.

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this is the last thing i wanted to hear. i can't trade without QT. NT is still inferior even with their latest s/w release.

i might even quit trading and go into farming as Jim Rogers suggested.

If the software was written in some obscure old language and no one but Jerry can support the beast some clever young programmer should come along and look at it and then start programming (using JAVA) charts that look and act just like QT, along with all the other bits that make it superior to anything else that is out there. Believe me, the heavy lifting has been done already. Reverse engineer the thing and all the people who loved QT will flock to the new one. For people who know programming this is not rocket science even though the rest of us might have no clue where to start.

To be successful in trading there are some of us who don't need 18 million bells and whistles. Good charts, simple trend line drawing tools, some Fibonacci along with that awesome symbol list with it's properly blinking price, bid, ask, high and low prices, combined with the averages printed at the top are about all I need. When it's gone my 'eye' into the market will go from 20-20 to something less. I'm working on a replacement but nothing quite like it is showing up.

For the record. SierraChart will do everything with IB backfill that it will with live data (allowing for the backfill's granularity) so you can do volume charts on live, 5 sec, or backfilled data.

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Quotetracker, free alternatives?

Reading this news is depressing. No comparison with ToS which I've been running at same time. Gotta find a similar prg to QT just in case this does come about. ToS does offer AMTD tie-ins like CNBC but way to horsey listing of stocks. No real Portfolios and such for fast scanning.
I imagine QT will work for awhile with ETrade and Yahoo but no idea how long that goes.
Need same kind of look & features. Portfolios, charts, alerts. trades. news feeds are the most important features to me.
Thanks guys. Looked at Sierra Chart but costs coin, while QT free thru the TDA site and ETrade feeds.
Heck even the TDA sire itself is better than ToS.

What can I replace QT with? I need customized MACD and Stochastics and I need it on a 30 minute interval for daily charts.

Any ideas?

I will be happy to close my TDA account once QT goes away. The place is a joke of a brokerage for daytrading.

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Quote from kiwi_trader:

For the record. SierraChart will do everything with IB backfill that it will with live data (allowing for the backfill's granularity) so you can do volume charts on live, 5 sec, or backfilled data.

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Qt

I just talked to 2 different people in tech support at Ameritrade both assured me it is Quote Scope and not Quote Tracker that is being phased out . They actually told me that if QT was to be phased out people would still be able to use it if they asked but it might involve a fee. So, I will keep using it for now and hope they are telling the truth.

sounds encouraging

... but no automatic MLK market holiday update on my end, had to do it manually, hmmmmm...

QT will be over by end 2011-True

I have an a/c with TD Am.Trade

I use TOS ( mostly for placing paper trades where fill notice comes in via email in to my phone when I dont watch tick by tick or want to wait for the trade to come to my target point)

but I trade stocks,etf and options thro QT.
I sent them a mail few days back asking for Pearson's Pivot (in TOS) to be included in QT. I got the reply that QT is going to be closed by end 2011.
I just can not imagine, how I can trade with out paint bar set ups in QT.

Also 20 days intra day stored tick data & historical 2 yr charts are good for post martem and trying out new paint bars with out internet connection.

TOS with out live connection to the server is dead.

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Quote from tradin4profits:

I just talked to 2 different people in tech support at Ameritrade both assured me it is Quote Scope and not Quote Tracker that is being phased out . They actually told me that if QT was to be phased out people would still be able to use it if they asked but it might involve a fee. So, I will keep using it for now and hope they are telling the truth.

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Sold or leased

Was QT sold to TD Ameritrade or leased to TD Ameritrade.

Re: Sold or leased

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Quote from reid5525:

Was QT sold to TD Ameritrade or leased to TD Ameritrade.

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Found QT Replacement

After an intense search I found my QT replacement. MultiCharts.

They have lots of room for improvement (in some things they are already better than QT) but are a young company with a small enough core that they are responsive to users. In time they will improve their software to the point I won't miss QT.

I advise anyone still looking to check them out.

http://www.multicharts.com/

Much higher cost than QT or SC.

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Quote from rcj:

Much higher cost than QT or SC.

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Re: Qt

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Quote from tradin4profits:

it is Quote Scope and not Quote Tracker that is being phased out

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Quote from Hurricane:

So I went thru 8 pages of notes because somebody got the program name wrong? A great example of how rumors get started. Can't believe anything on the Internet these days.

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Quote from LeeD:

The thread is about Medved QuoteTracker.

Not sure what Quote Scope is....

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Garbar I am in mourning over QT. I dl the free version of multicharts and am trying to get the hang of it. Right off the bat the adding of symbols to the market scanner seems overly complicated. Is there a way to add a list of symbols in one fell swoop? In your experience, does the speed in scrolling from one symbol to the next in the scanner match up to the speed in QT? What are some of the features which you feel exceed QT. Thanks

Well which is it, QT R.I.P. or not?

Why the confusion?

QuoteScope is dogshit, no one uses it or will miss it.,

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As best I call tell QT will be kept, but there will be no new improvements and no programing updates for data feeds from sources other than AMTD. If this is the case then eventually QT will only be of use to AMTD customers. After about a month of lies from QT support about them working on my data feed problem I canceled my subscription. Somewhere in there they did tell me that they were not renewing any more subscriptions, so it would be free going forward. Time will tell what the truth is.

I was told by two different TD people, Harrison and Bill, that QT will no longer be supported after 2011. The program will still work but if an issue comes up, ie. datafeed compatability, no one will be around to fix it. As I try out different platforms I realize how good QT really is.

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Quote from youngamerican:

Garbar I am in mourning over QT. I dl the free version of multicharts and am trying to get the hang of it. Right off the bat the adding of symbols to the market scanner seems overly complicated. Is there a way to add a list of symbols in one fell swoop? In your experience, does the speed in scrolling from one symbol to the next in the scanner match up to the speed in QT? What are some of the features which you feel exceed QT. Thanks

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...couldn't believe it when I read it, so I emailed TDA and they confirmed they are phasing it out. The guy tried to sell me on other tools they offer, but anyone who has ever used QT quickly realizes how great a charting tool it really is... the others are just absolute crap.

I'm on the search for a new charting tool and looking at Sierra, but like someone said earlier... it's a sad day to lose this app. Very sad.

I may even rethink my whole TDA relationship if I find something more appropriate for my style of trading.

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Quote from samus:

...couldn't believe it when I read it, so I emailed TDA and they confirmed they are phasing it out. The guy tried to sell me on other tools they offer, but anyone who has ever used QT quickly realizes how great a charting tool it really is... the others are just absolute crap.

I'm on the search for a new charting tool and looking at Sierra, but like someone said earlier... it's a sad day to lose this app. Very sad.

I may even rethink my whole TDA relationship if I find something more appropriate for my style of trading.

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if QT becomes free but without support, then we can still use it for a couple of years right ?

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Quote from trade2live:

if QT becomes free but without support, then we can still use it for a couple of years right ?

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Quote from samus:... but anyone who has ever used QT quickly realizes how great a charting tool it really is... the others are just absolute crap.

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As with Wealth-Lab, QT, you will be missed.

Criminal for them to abandon QT. How much could it possibly cost to simply maintain it from a feed standpoint?

They could pay Medved some nominal sum to do that , and not piss off hundreds or thousands of traders who use the platform.

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Quote from stock777:

Criminal for them to abandon QT. How much could it possibly cost to simply maintain it from a feed standpoint?

They could pay Medved some nominal sum to do that , and not piss off hundreds or thousands of traders who use the platform.

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Quote from killthesunshine:

what chart are you getting now that can't be got from any other even better??

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Quote from LeeD:

I understand TDA wants to shut down QuoteTracker as a matter of principle... so that QT doesn't compete with their newly acquired ThinkOrSwim platfrom, in the further development of which TDA is going to invest big.

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Quote from samus:

I use volatility stops religiously and QT is the only one I've found that can easily and simply chart them with visual simplicity like no other I've found. I'm use to it, I like it, and I hate parting with such a great app.

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[QUOTE]Quote from LeeD:

[B]Are you talking of something like Chandelier stop?

I'm not sure but I believe it's a variation of the volatility stop used with a multiple of ATR that can adjusted for sensitivity. Your chart looks very similar to vstop.

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Quote from samus:

I'm not sure but I believe it's a variation of the volatility stop used with a multiple of ATR that can adjusted for sensitivity. Your chart looks very similar to vstop.

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Quote from LeeD:

Exactly! The chart shows ATR (over specified number of bars) multiplied by a user-defined constant. Is it the kind of stop, you are saying, is not found in other platforms?

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Quote from samus:

Probably my bad but I haven't looked very hard for "Chandlier". I know it best as a vstop, and I have found other charts using it, but not as an integrated chart with my TD account. I have a feeling I'm going to have to adjust in the near future so I'll have to do more due diligence in finding a package with this indicator. What charting package are you using?

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what is QT charting that another program can't?

I tried Multichart over the weekend. It depresses me how superior QT is over anything else I've tried. Someone buy QT from lowlife scumbags that is TD and revive it back to life please!

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Quote from JamesBond007:

I tried Multichart over the weekend. It depresses me how superior QT is over anything else I've tried.

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Here's what Bill just sent me...

"Please be advised that QT was programmed in Delphi for Windows 95 and is rapidly reaching an unmaintainable state, so we are trying to integrate as many features as we can in to thinkorswim from TD AMERITRADE before that happens. When the draw down is complete by the end of 2011, it will no longer be supported or maintained, but QT will most likely still work in the state that it is in at that point."

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Quote from killthesunshine:

what is QT charting that another program can't?

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Quote from uexkuell:

Tried MultiCharts and several other programs (NinjaTrader, TradeVec...).

Several points I am missing:

1. Unfortunately none of them handles constant volume charts (CVC) in a flexible way.
For me CVC is the only way to have a consistent look at the markets.
QT allows very flexible constant volume charts. MultiCharts blocks zooming out at some point which stops you from getting an overview.
NinjaTrader does not allow the user to use IB backfill for this chart type. ....
(QT has a long standing bad bug in handling CVCs but still it is superior to anything else.)

2. Fast entry of new symbols / fast selection of symbols.
Very handy to just click on a symbol and get the chart.

3. All these other charting programs are using up screen space for elements that carry no information (task bars, menu buttons...). QT is very efficient in using screen space.

Just some of my observations.



Taken together people that design these new charting programs obviously have in mind:
- Make it look nice (nice buttons, nice candles, many "indicators")
- Make the user go through many dialogs in order to reduce possibility of making erroneous input

These are ok for beginners that have never touched a charting program.
For people that know what they want these gadgets have no value. They just reduce efficiency.

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Quote from killthesunshine:

uh no. who wants the liability for unsupported SW out there?

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Quote from pescador:

That's very bad news, QT is one of the best programms I have found until now, both in terms of functionality as of efficiency.

It is also one of the few charting applications that one can connect to IB and work well on Linux.

Actually I would pay a higher monthly fee in order to be able to continue using it.
I am sure there are a lot of people who would do it, just because it is a superior program
to many others. So maybe Jerry could still make some money with it buying back?

Lately I began to have a look at AmiBroker. Seem also good, but a very different beast.
Does anyone have experience with both? How does its charting capabilities compare to QT?
Is it worth to make a change to AB, or are there better options?

I also tried Ninja some time ago, but it does not run on Linux, and even on Windows it is much slower and clumsier than QT. And it has no free floating charts...

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Quote from RCG Trader:

I moved from TS2000i to Amibroker a few years back. No regrets. The software is open source and you can do anything your programming mind can conceive.

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Quote from LeeD:

Is AmiBroker open source now?

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Quote from garbar:

AmiBroker is NOT open source. You have to pay for it. It's very good.

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Quote from RCG Trader:

I moved from TS2000i to Amibroker a few years back. No regrets. The software is open source and you can do anything your programming mind can conceive.

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Quote from LeeD:

That's what I thought...

However, I would conclude something totally different from what RCG Trader wrote:He could have been joking

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I was told late last year that TD is stopping support on 3 of its current products:

- QT
- StrategyDesk
- Advanced Analyzer

I find all 3 to be terrific in their niches. I was also told that they will be investing a lot in ToS, and some sort of replacement product, which will incorporate the features of the above 3.

We all know that this will never happen, and TD is throwing their money behind ToS. I am not an options trader, so I cannot evaluate their options platform adequately, but the rest of their product is mediocre at best, IMO. Additionally, I use Wealthlab via QT to IB, to do some real time analysis. If the IB changes its interface to existing QT protocol, I'm doubly screwed.

Getting back to the OP's comment, it would be great if Jerry (and team) could buy QT back to support it, at least feed-wise. To let it whither away and die, is almost criminal. But then again, why would TD allow for a competing product to continue on...........due to their large investment ($ 600 MM+), they'll use a sledgehammer if they have to, to make things work with this platform. A real poor decision by TD. They obviously don't have a clue when it comes to trading and technology, and someone up the chain made a horrible investment on "their future".

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Like for Quote Tracker, TDAT will also be "the end of the line" for TOS. It will take about two or three years for the stupid top management of TDAT to kill TOS.

I have been trying out charting packages since I heard this sad news.

I tried Sierra, NeoTicker, Multicharts and Ninja.
AmiBroker I had already known a bit, having played around with it some years ago.

Now I decided to stay with AmiBroker and pay for the professional version.
I trade with IB, so the price is about the same as it has been the yearly fee with QT.

The RT charting part in itself is nothing as good as with QT, but acceptable. But I really
love the flexibility that one gains with the powerful AFL language. In the end it more than compensates for the more difficult charting interface IMO.

The software is very efficient, super fast and seems to have almost unlimited possibilities.
The only other I liked out of of those I tried, was NeoTicker.
It is an excellent piece of software, but does not run on Linux (neither does MultiCharts or Ninja).
And for what I've seen AB is much faster, for only a fraction of the price.

But of course, NeoTicker would need much more time to familiarize with than what I had; so I guess there must be possibilities to run it faster, if one takes the time to learn how it really works.

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Quote from pescador:

The software is very efficient, super fast and seems to have almost unlimited possibilities.
The only other I liked out of of those I tried, was NeoTicker.
It is an excellent piece of software, but does not run on Linux (neither does MultiCharts or Ninja).
And for what I've seen AB is much faster, for only a fraction of the price.

But of course, NeoTicker would need much more time to familiarize with than what I had; so I guess there must be possibilities to run it faster, if one takes the time to learn how it really works.

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I have been trying out MultiCharts. I think this might be the right choice for many who have used QT. Looking pretty good.

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Quote from BSAM:

I have been trying out MultiCharts. I think this might be the right choice for many who have used QT. Looking pretty good.

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Quote from BSAM:

I have been trying out MultiCharts. I think this might be the right choice for many who have used QT. Looking pretty good.

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Quote from garbar:

The biggie for me is the quote panel with histogram in the last price column. No other charting package has such an animal. No other software allows me to see so clearly INSTANTLY the strength of the market and where each stocks are in their daily range. It's such a coup that I don't understand why everyone doesn't do it. Without it I am almost blind in comparison when I view other scanners or quote boards. So I'll be asking for that right near the get-go.

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Quote from garbar:

...we need to get right on the ball and make lots of feature requests so that MultiCharts will become as good as QT in time. I've got a sixteen item list ready to go.

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Thanks for sharing your experience!

When you say "faster" what activity do you refer to? Adding a data series to a chart, adding an indicator to a chart, downloading historical data from the datafeed, something else?

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Do you mean something like this?

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Quote from garbar:

I mean like this. It takes a millisecond to see which puppies I want to buy or sell. Simplicity and efficiency to the max. If this goes out of existence forever and no one picks it up that will be a crying shame.

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I mean like this. It takes a millisecond to see which puppies I want to buy or sell. Simplicity and efficiency to the max. If this goes out of existence forever and no one picks it up that will be a crying shame.

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Quote from killthesunshine:

you can tell the next instant winners just from that? sure you can

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Like this?

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Quote from garbar:

Yes, similar to this. (Your pic changed from the first one I saw.)

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Lee is your screenshots of neoticker? I like the look of your first screenshot. Is it possible to settup a screen like you have done and have candle charts of the daily, 15 minute and 1 minute side by side all updating in real time? Is it possible to have for example the 15 minute and 1 minute charts showing more then one day of data?

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Quote from youngamerican:

Lee is your screenshots of neoticker?

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Quote from youngamerican:

Is it possible to settup a screen like you have done and have candle charts of the daily, 15 minute and 1 minute side by side all updating in real time?

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Is it possible to have for example the 15 minute and 1 minute charts showing more then one day of data?

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Thanks Lee. Are those micro charts selected from a preexisting list provided by the software and placed into your quote window or are those manually created by you? Can those windows be resized or are they fixed? Can you add volume or indicators to those micro charts as well? Thanks. For any multicharts users can the software duplicate what Lee has done in neoticker?

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Quote from youngamerican:

Thanks Lee. Are those micro charts selected from a preexisting list provided by the software and placed into your quote window or are those manually created by you?

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Can those windows be resized or are they fixed? Can you add volume or indicators to those micro charts as well?

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Can you add volume or indicators to those micro charts as well? Thanks.

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Thanks Lee. I am going to give this software a test run. Thank you for bringing these features to my attention.

Does any of the other software have a similar kind of portfolio window where you can manually type in 'ghost' positions with the Qty of shares, the price Paid, and it will then show the Gain %?

Also, which software has the most similar type of thing to Quotetracker's paintbar alerts?

Thanks.

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Quote from youngamerican:

Thanks Lee. I am going to give this software a test run. Thank you for bringing these features to my attention.

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Quote from thunderbolttr:

Does any of the other software have a similar kind of portfolio window where you can manually type in 'ghost' positions with the Qty of shares, the price Paid, and it will then show the Gain %?

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Quote from thunderbolttr:

Also, which software has the most similar type of thing to Quotetracker's paintbar alerts?

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Are there other trading software with inline mini charts like QT. These are intraday mini charts that match the regular chart.

Someone on here should know this.

I am starting to test drive NinjaTrader as a replacement. Not as many current features, or as easy to program as QuoteTracker; but it does accept custom software extensions/indicators and strategies. I have worked with NT7 for the last week and have about 60% of my core screens rebuilt.

LINUX

I hadn't realized you could use qt with linux.

How many linux qt users are there out there? And which brokers are they using.

Over at the Sierra Chart message board theres been an effort to increase compatibility with linux going on for a while and the SC boys seem willing to create a "Linux Compatible" version to run with a limited number of broker/feeds.

Is there any interest here that might increase enthusiasm for the commitment required to move to and support linux?

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So what do you do? Agree to disagree. Or fight. - C. Zakalwe.

I have used QT with Linux, and traded with IB.
Both of them work without any issues on Linux.

Some years ago I read Jerry Medved writing on a forum, that as long as he would be involved with QT; it would always run on Linux (but only through wine). Unfortunately enough he is not involved there any more...

Sierra Chart also works on linux, except for some functions that heavly depend on some .Net functions that are still not compatible with wine.

I have had a look at Sierra more than once within the last some years, but they have never seemed to be committed to produce a really compatible version with Linux or wine.

This is one of the reasons (but not the only one) I decided for AmiBroker in the end.
AB is still not 100% compatible, but almost there.
And it has some really good and powerful features.

Now a SC committed to 100% compatibility would be interesting, but I doubt they would ever do it. It is just too much hassle to replace those incompatible .Net functions.

Thats why they are going to limit it to certain brokers. Their use of Net is very limited apparently so if you take IB and a couple of others you can produce a Netfree version.

I don't think they were any more impressed with Wine than I am but the possibility of a pure linux version looks more interesting. Also it might lead to an Android version to follow.

At least that is my current understanding.

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The things people believe in are usually just what they instinctively feel is right; the justifications and arguments are the least important part of the belief.
That's why you can win the argument, prove them wrong, and still they believe what they did in the first place. You've attacked the wrong thing.
So what do you do? Agree to disagree. Or fight. - C. Zakalwe.

False alarm I'm afraid. They've taken a look at the issues of porting it to linux and decided not to at present. So, I'll have to stick with trusty XP.

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The things people believe in are usually just what they instinctively feel is right; the justifications and arguments are the least important part of the belief.
That's why you can win the argument, prove them wrong, and still they believe what they did in the first place. You've attacked the wrong thing.
So what do you do? Agree to disagree. Or fight. - C. Zakalwe.

Garbar,

How did you get the 'LAST' column to show that way it is on your picture? I assume it is an ATR histogram overlapped with the last price. Can you point me to it? I had been looking for that function for sometime! Is it a custom script?

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I mean like this. It takes a millisecond to see which puppies I want to buy or sell. Simplicity and efficiency to the max. If this goes out of existence forever and no one picks it up that will be a crying shame.

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I've been using Quotetracker for close to a couple of years and I've really come to appreciate the simple intuitive interface it provides as well as the level of customization it enables.

The single most wanted feature from Quotetracker that I would like to have in another charting tool would be the automatic plotting of horizontal lines at predefined user selectable price levels everyday such as the previous day's high, low, close, today's open and standard pivots S4 thru R4, etc.

I trade price action and many of my trades are put on or taken off around these levels. Having them automatically highlighted and price labeled everyday sets up so many trades and allows me to effortlessly execute them such as in AMZN today displayed in the chart.

I also trade around opening ranges, support/resistance and constantly watch for trend lines but since those can't be put in automatically, I draw lines to mark them which Quotetracker also makes so easy to do without having to explicitly select a drawing tool.

Anyway, that feature makes trading much more intuitive for me as opposed to not having them visually represented and if anyone knows of other charting software that I can try out with that feature let me know.

A Fix For QT's Historical Backfill

A fix for QT's Bigcharts historical backfill has been posted at http://investorshub.advfn.com/board...x?board_id=5483 by LarryW.
The actual download is at http://www.2shared.com/file/BLD1rklK/bigcharts.html .
I tried it yesterday and its working perfectly. I also checked the download for viruses--there were none.

Re: QuoteTracker To Be Finished End of 2011

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Quote from garbar:

Just got word from the company QT is toast as of end of 2011.

"Unfortunately, QT will be drawn down by the end of 2011 as TD AMERITRADE looks to consolidate its resources towards other platforms and projects."

It's gonna die.

Anyone want to buy it and keep it alive? Jerry should buy it back and make more money with it again.

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Can still be downloaded from their site...

Might be charged $120.00, don't know for sure, since AMTD supposedly is dropping QuoteTracker at the end of 2011...


http://quotetracker.com/download.asp

anyone else having amtd server issues for the last week. qt keeps kicking me off the default server , and the other backup servers are not working properly. not updating quotes, etc.

dont feel like calling them and hearing their bullshit about quotetracker support. might compel me to say something about the guys mother.

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Just got off the phone with them. Started having chart issues last Fri. Backfilled till 9:20 am then nothing. Some tickers did, most didn't. Didn't realize, till I came here looking to see if others were having issues, that problem is limited to Naz. NYSE tickers chart fine. I went so far as to factory restore my newish puter and reinstall QT thinking that would fix it. Nope. It's def on their end, somewhere. Guy on the phone said they did have a back-up of QT related e-mails, he didn't know about what, and best I could do is wait for them to get to it. Not Happy. I asked about the rumor about dropping QT and he said something like "not decided" but kinda sounded like yes to me.

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Quote from Peri:

Just got off the phone with them. Started having chart issues last Fri. Backfilled till 9:20 am then nothing. Some tickers did, most didn't. Didn't realize, till I came here looking to see if others were having issues, that problem is limited to Naz. NYSE tickers chart fine. I went so far as to factory restore my newish puter and reinstall QT thinking that would fix it. Nope. It's def on their end, somewhere. Guy on the phone said they did have a back-up of QT related e-mails, he didn't know about what, and best I could do is wait for them to get to it. Not Happy. I asked about the rumor about dropping QT and he said something like "not decided" but kinda sounded like yes to me.

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This might not matter to the traders needing the feed from AMTD...

But QT & IQFeed has no issues whatsoever...$50'ish/month...


http://www.iqfeed.net/

Multi charts is free http://www.multicharts.com/market-data-feeds/

I imagined the Medved boys had to sign a no competition clause,
with luck when Qt is dumped by AMERITRADE at the end of this year, they can come up with QT2

shits still broken ., amtd sux ass

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Quote from trader_mk:

I've been using Quotetracker for close to a couple of years and I've really come to appreciate the simple intuitive interface it provides as well as the level of customization it enables.

The single most wanted feature from Quotetracker that I would like to have in another charting tool would be the automatic plotting of horizontal lines at predefined user selectable price levels everyday such as the previous day's high, low, close, today's open and standard pivots S4 thru R4, etc.

I trade price action and many of my trades are put on or taken off around these levels. Having them automatically highlighted and price labeled everyday sets up so many trades and allows me to effortlessly execute them such as in AMZN today displayed in the chart.

I also trade around opening ranges, support/resistance and constantly watch for trend lines but since those can't be put in automatically, I draw lines to mark them which Quotetracker also makes so easy to do without having to explicitly select a drawing tool.

Anyway, that feature makes trading much more intuitive for me as opposed to not having them visually represented and if anyone knows of other charting software that I can try out with that feature let me know.

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Re: Qt

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Quote from tradin4profits:

2 different people in tech support at Ameritrade both assured me it is Quote Scope and not Quote Tracker that is being phased

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Quote from lassic:

I imagined the Medved boys had to sign a no competition clause,
with luck when Qt is dumped by AMERITRADE at the end of this year, they can come up with QT2

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If TDAT kills QT, then a non-compete clause becomes meaningless, does it not?

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Quote from horseman:

If TDAT kills QT, then a non-compete clause becomes meaningless, does it not?

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Quote from Rodney King:

Would depend on whether the agreement defines "compete" narrowly, or more broadly as "offer any trading platform." Bear in mind, any new QT-like product would compete, in a broad sense, with TD/ToS's other platform(s). Heck, that's why they're killing QT in the first place -- because they believe their other offerings are "close enough."

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Quote from horseman:

If TDAT kills QT, then a non-compete clause becomes meaningless, does it not?

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am i the only one seeing and calling amtd about being switch to broken servers during the day? this is horseshit

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You might do better in a new thread. Many QT users are not TD/AMTD users.

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Quote from stock777:

am i the only one seeing and calling amtd about being switch to broken servers during the day? this is horseshit

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you can use any datafeed you want. The trading is independent.

Has anyone actually tried to get in contact with the Medveds and discussed their possible reacquisition of the product? It did happen with Skype, after all.

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Quote from lfabio:

anyone actually tried to get in contact with the Medveds and discussed their possible reacquisition of the product

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No, but I would think that positive reinforcement from users may help them reach a decision, sort of like your post has reminded me of what to expect in a forum.

Hi ,

in order to be prepared for a replacement of QT , I have tested 2 programs (free version with IB ) :

- Ninja : Did not like it so I stopped at early stage
- Multichart Discretionary Trader : Sounds good at my first testing but I thought to have received an unlimited free version but it looks like this was a 30 days free version

Have you already tested this "free version" of multicharts ?

Regards

Sierracharts is the way to go, $18 a month for live trading on all brokers/datafeeds.

QT

IS QT still going to work after 12/31/2011 but be unsupported or will it cease to function?

Thanks

Re: QT

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IS QT still going to work after 12/31/2011 but be unsupported or will it cease to function?

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I spoke with them about this a few months ago. It will still work, however should your quote source change something on their end which then makes it incompatible with QT, it most likely would stop working or have problems or issues. And, there would be nobody on QT's end to fix the problem. Perhaps some white knight will come along and pick up QT, as it does seem to have amassed a good number of users over the past 20 years or so. It would be a shame to see it wither away.

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Quote from high99:

I spoke with them about this a few months ago. It will still work, however should your quote source change something on their end which then makes it incompatible with QT, it most likely would stop working or have problems or issues. And, there would be nobody on QT's end to fix the problem. Perhaps some white knight will come along and pick up QT, as it does seem to have amassed a good number of users over the past 20 years or so. It would be a shame to see it wither away.

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The problem is TD Ameritrade own copyright on QuoteTracker... and the latest indication is they are not planning to sell it or give it away. So, it's not a question of an independent developer dedicating a little time to it.

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Quote from high99:

We all understand it is owned by TDA. That is a given. However something may change down the road, and QT may live on. Time will tell.

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Re: Re: QuoteTracker To Be Finished End of 2011

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Well, hopefully it becomes an opensource project. Would be a superb move.

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Interactive Brokers Data Feed

Does anyone know if the IB data feed is still working with QT?
I am looking at them as a Broker / Data Feed provider.
Thanks!

I'm still using QT with IB feed. No problems.

Good to hear.

Thanks for the reply!

I stumbled across this zip file to keep QT going past the end of the year. Just extract all of the files into your existing QT installation folder (with QT off) and QT will keep running as usual.

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Quote from ydfah:

I stumbled across this zip file to keep QT going past the end of the year. Just extract all of the files into your existing QT installation folder (with QT off) and QT will keep running as usual.

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It was my understanding that QT would continue to function normally, after year end, as long as your quote source (IB for example) data format has not made any changes ... why would a "fix" be required??

[QUOTE]Quote from rcj:

[B]Whaat ?? Where did you get these files ? Link ?

Also, would like to get access to the patch files. Running QT with IQFEED but my annual QT sub is coming due soon.

Uhm ydfah, is the qtusers forum down?

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Quote from ydfah:

I stumbled across this zip file to keep QT going past the end of the year. Just extract all of the files into your existing QT installation folder (with QT off) and QT will keep running as usual.

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Quote from Stardust:

[QUOTE]Quote from rcj:

[B]Whaat ?? Where did you get these files ? Link ?

Also, would like to get access to the patch files. Running QT with IQFEED but my annual QT sub is coming due soon.

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It seems odd to me that they just started requiring me to log in with my TDA password each time I launch QT now, if they are indeed phasing it out. This just started last week.

Anyone else experience this?

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Quote from JamesBond007:

from what i heard QT is no longer charging subs as TDA is winding down the software and no longer providing support.

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Quote from lfabio:

Uhm ydfah, is the qtusers forum down?

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Quote from JamesBond007:

a scammer alert.

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Quote from kralcd:

It was my understanding that QT would continue to function normally, after year end, as long as your quote source (IB for example) data format has not made any changes ... why would a "fix" be required??

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ydfah understood. Next question.. where's the patch?

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Quote from lfabio:
ydfah understood. Next question.. where's the patch?

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Quote from ydfah:

Server issues, it's being diligently addressed by "mav" and I trust it will be corrected soon.

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Registration & Patch

I am a registered QT user. I had to re install QT. When I entered my registration code, (which it asked for) I received a message that I had hit the limit of 5 re-registers for this code.
Has anyone run into this recently? Are new registration codes available?

Also, has anyone downloaded & tried the patch that was posted above? Any problems?

Thanks!

I installed the patch on Linux with wine, and it works fine.
I guess you can just reinstall it, then install the patch and it should work allright.

Re: Registration & Patch

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I received a message that I had hit the limit of 5 re-registers for this code.

Also, has anyone downloaded & tried the patch that was posted above?

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Just use IB charts, if IB is your broker. IB charts have become usable, finally, after all these years.

rcj


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Haven't seen an update to QT for some time, am I missing something?

I suspect the volume problem was on IB's end. It also affected their DDE API.
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Looks like the vol problem on ES T/S i had Fri is ended for now.

In another QT thread a guy put up a link to a patch for QT which
allows for a bypass of the registration server and some other featurs as well. Supposedly, TDA will shut that server down
at the end of 2011.

Also a TD rep gave me a registration code valid thru 5/12 and made no mention of shutting down QT. On other threads here
a number of people claim QT will be no longer available after
end of 2011. Dont know whats going on...yet.

As far as i know, no updates for quite awhile.

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Quote from ydfah:

Go to: http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/261b2f3fa7_3.78MB

Then about in the middle of the page look for Click Here To Download in blue letters. Click that to start the download.

Here is what's different after applying the patch:
1) Registration - This version is always registered for everyone, no matter what
2) max # of days on intraday charts increased from 20 to 60 - it still defaults to 20, but you can go to preferences and increase to 60. NOTE: right now there are 2 sources that can backfill 60 - TDA and IQFeed. But for others, QT will still store the data so you will build it up over time.

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IB future quote not updated

Since midnight this morning 8/30/11, Future contract like GLOBEX:@ESU1 has not been updated from QT. Stock symobls works ok. Anyone had this problem also.

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Quote from shfly:

Re. item #2: How do you get more than the 10 days of intraday on the charts? Cannot go beyond the 10 in preferences...Using IQFeed as my feed...(Don't use AMTD as my broker). [/B]

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Since midnight this morning 8/30/11, IB Future contract like GLOBEX:@ESU1 has not been updated from QT. Stock symobls works ok. Anyone had this problem also.

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Re: Re: IB future quote not updated

The problem some of us are having is annoying n00bs who don't know not to bump their own posts.

FYI - IB Quotes

I am an IB user....I have not had any problems today (yet!) with the ES/NQ/TF/YM futures quotes.

Re: FYI - IB Quotes

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Quote from kralcd:

I am an IB user....I have not had any problems today (yet!) with the ES/NQ/TF/YM futures quotes.

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No problem getting Ym/ES here today from IB.Im using QT.

I get my quotes from the IB TWS and use a couple of simple IB TWS Charts.
I use the QT Charting much more ... they were ok today, as far as I am able to determine.

QT Futures data still not updating today.

It is like QT does not recognize the futures symbols. I have IB charts and quotes up and they are fine on TWS. Stock (SPY) charts work fine on QT. The only issue is with futures data (GLOBEX:@ESU1).

Quotes, Level II, Charts - nothing updates. I have been using QT for years and it has always worked. All of my setting are the same as they have always been. I am running the latest version of QT. I have tried restoring my backup on a duplicate version of QT and still no data.

I emailed QT support Tuesday AM so hopefully I hear back soon. I will post if/when I hear anything. I can't trade without my QT charts!

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Quote from ydfah:

You're in preferences, charts tab, multi-day timeframes tab, right?
That's where you should be able to bump up the Max Days On Charts setting.

Make sure all of your quote sources are set correctly in the Data Sources/Proxy windows.

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QT Futures data still not updating today.

Very strange.

I assume you are using the installed version of IB..not the web browser version....

It sounds like something got corrupted.
Only a guess.

What I would do, while waiting for a response, is to save all the QT related programs, data, etc...put that aside, and install the latest version from scratch, preferably iin a new directory. After installing just enter a couple of symbols 1-2 futures & 1-2 stock.....see if your now getting the futures data in QT....only a guess & worth a try if you are dead in the water.

I have reinstalled QT so many times .... this should be able to be done in less than 30 minutes...more like 10.....

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Quote from dt.trader:

QT Futures data still not updating today.

It is like QT does not recognize the futures symbols. I have IB charts and quotes up and they are fine on TWS. Stock (SPY) charts work fine on QT. The only issue is with futures data (GLOBEX:@ESU1).

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SPX 500, NDX 500, HUI 500

I likewise have been using it since the beginning of time. I must go back to 1998 or so. It has been always reliable. Great piece of software.

Is there any other trading platform that supports both IB and TDA like QT does?

Data Drops from 12 Midnite to 02 AM

QT with IQFEED. When using Volume charts for ES, NQ, YM the data drops between midnite & 2 am (EST). All other chart styles work fine.
Any ideas?

ES Overnite Data Loss

Correction to previous post. This seems to only happen for ES. NQ & YM were ok last nite.

Noticing connection issues to the main server today. The alternates seem ok so far

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Charts backfill does not work. Does anyone have the same problem?

I have used TDAT quotes for years with QuoteTracker but the TDAT log-in for quotes through QuoteTracker has stopped working. Apparently TDAT has changed something on their end that prevents logging into my TDAT account through QuoteTracker.

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Quote from Catoosa:

I have used TDAT quotes for years with QuoteTracker but the TDAT log-in for quotes through QuoteTracker has stopped working.

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Catoosa,

I am not seeing any issues logging in with TDA. Using it myself

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Quote from ydfah:

Go to page 28 of this thread and read my post, (the third one down.) Apply the patch and see if it straightens things out for you.

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Quote from j_medved:

Catoosa,

I am not seeing any issues logging in with TDA. Using it myself

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No. Login works regardless. Try going to this URL using IE browser (specifically IE, NOT firefox, chrome, etc)

https://apis.tdameritrade.com/

You should get a page about the document you requested not being available (that is not a problem). The thing to check is if you are getting any security certificate error/warning when you try to go to that page. If so, that would be the cause of the login problem

I'm unable to login to TDAmeritrade from Quotetracker 3.9.8 (unpatched).

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Quote from j_medved:

No. Login works regardless. Try going to this URL using IE browser (specifically IE, NOT firefox, chrome, etc)

https://apis.tdameritrade.com/

You should get a page about the document you requested not being available (that is not a problem). The thing to check is if you are getting any security certificate error/warning when you try to go to that page. If so, that would be the cause of the login problem

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Can you do Windows Update to get latest updates for IE? Or update to IE 8 or 9? that will most likely fix the issue

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Quote from j_medved:

Can you do Windows Update to get latest updates for IE? Or update to IE 8 or 9? that will most likely fix the issue

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Same problem here on XP SP3.

QT starts talking via port 443 to 216.105.251.201 and 216.105.251.30 and exchanges some data (it is encrypted so my simple wire sniffing doesn't reveal anything) which I believe is authentication attempt.

I'm running IE7 and was able to load the test page without any problem. So it's safe to assume that IE8 and IE9 are not necessary at this point in time.

windows 2000? omg

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Quote from Catoosa:

I am running windows 2000 pro with IE 6.0

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Quote from garbar:



I mean like this. It takes a millisecond to see which puppies I want to buy or sell. Simplicity and efficiency to the max. If this goes out of existence forever and no one picks it up that will be a crying shame.

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On a different XP SP3 workstation on my home network, QT seems to be OK

On a different XP SP3 workstation on my home network, QT seems to be authenticating and getting quotes without any issues. Seems to be an issue related to local machine only. Investigating..

Re: On a different XP SP3 workstation on my home network, QT seems to be OK

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Quote from bxb:

On a different XP SP3 workstation on my home network, QT seems to be authenticating and getting quotes without any issues. Seems to be an issue related to local machine only. Investigating..

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Installing IE8 over IE6 on that aged machine and updating Root Certificates (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931125) did the trick.

Thank you for the most robust, functional, and leanest trading platform out there. Hoping QT will somehow be around and kicking in years to come.

I have solved my unable to log-in through QuoteTracker to my TDAT account for data or placing trades if using internet explorer IE 6.0. I was able to find and install two required Certificate Authority certificates into my Windows OS to solve the log-in problem. May QuoteTracker live on.

Cattosa, could you tell me where you found the two required certificates, and what they are named. I've been trying to fix this problem for a week, even with TDA and QT support all I have is root.zip with 50-100 certificates all with the wrong extensions.

Thanks,

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Quote from barata:

Cattosa, could you tell me where you found the two required certificates, and what they are named. I've been trying to fix this problem for a week, even with TDA and QT support all I have is root.zip with 50-100 certificates all with the wrong extensions.

Thanks,

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I'm using Windows 2000 and IE6, just like you. The problem started over a week ago, I couldn't log into TDAmeritrade from QT...but I could log in to the TDA website. Also, although I almost never user IE6, I tried from IE6 at the suggestion of Harrison (QT support) and discovered that just going to the TDA website was enough to produce the Security Alert. Does that sound familiar? Apparently QT uses Internet Explorer to establish connections.

ydfah...many thanks for the registration patch. Wow, 60 days of intraday data, I've been wanting that since the day I first tried QT. How ironic to have that now in the sunset weeks(months? years?) of the program.

Just to make sure I understand how to apply the patch...I'm sure with stocks.exe it's just a matter of replacing the current stocks.exe. But what about the other .lgs and .bfl files. Same thing, just replace the current ones, if they are there?

BTW, I've seen no mention of this...but will TDAmeritrade also cut off their data feed API to QT. I assume there's be no direct trading with them through QT, but it would be nice if the data kept flowing for a while.

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Quote from barata:

I'm using Windows 2000 and IE6, just like you. The problem started over a week ago, I couldn't log into TDAmeritrade from QT...but I could log in to the TDA website. Also, although I almost never user IE6, I tried from IE6 at the suggestion of Harrison (QT support) and discovered that just going to the TDA website was enough to produce the Security Alert. Does that sound familiar? Apparently QT uses Internet Explorer to establish connections.

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Quote from barata:

ydfah...many thanks for the registration patch. Wow, 60 days of intraday data, I've been wanting that since the day I first tried QT. How ironic to have that now in the sunset weeks(months? years?) of the program.

Just to make sure I understand how to apply the patch...I'm sure with stocks.exe it's just a matter of replacing the current stocks.exe. But what about the other .lgs and .bfl files. Same thing, just replace the current ones, if they are there?

BTW, I've seen no mention of this...but will TDAmeritrade also cut off their data feed API to QT. I assume there's be no direct trading with them through QT, but it would be nice if the data kept flowing for a while.

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barata,

Did you receive my email of what you need to log-in to tdat for data? Have you installed the certificates? Did they fix the problem you were having?

Catoosa, the security certificates worked great, but only partially. I can now login from IE6, but the TDAmeritrade login problem remains with QT. I checked on another computer, same problem.

I had another, older,QT installation that was missing a bunch of files, I started it up (using v3.9.7) and after it downloaded a bunch of missing parameter files, it worked (login to TDA) without any problem. So I took the stocks.exe from that one and put it in my QT installation that had the problem. Started it up and the problem returned.

This tells me the problem most likely is coming from one of the parameter(.par, .lgs, .mkd, .trd, .ind, etc... about 200 new files after the upgrade) files, possibly corrupted or changed by the security certificate problem that TDAmeritrade was having recently. There are three amtrade.xxx files. But which of all these files is the source of the problem?? The only thing I know is that it's not the stocks.exe file.

Thanks for all the help, and at least I have one QT installation that's working.

barata,

I have sent you a private message.

barata,

I have sent you an email and another PM.

noticing lots of 'fake' bad prints on ameritrades feed after the market close lately. prices having nothing to do with the days trading at all.

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For quite some time there are so many fake prints in volume also in after hours.
So Range charts and Constant Volume charts becomes wacky and freezes the QT some times.(due to over load)
So the only solution I do is to clear the data up to the culprit period (last 5/first five etc) or delete the whole data and re download and try.

Another strange issue. "Update all historical data" has disappeared.
Intraday data ,updates when you give a single update command.

So I need to go indivually one by one and update historical chart.(60 symbols in two portofolio's)

Iam still getting 20 days data only. Any easy to understand fix to get 60 day intrada data?

QT has never let me down,If I only wait for my paint bar to give signal and stick with it till it changes ,I will be richer.

Buying too soon and selling too soon inspite QT says "No" is the problem.

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Quote from keviniyengar:

Another strange issue. "Update all historical data" has disappeared.
Intraday data ,updates when you give a single update command.

So I need to go indivually one by one and update historical chart.(60 symbols in two portofolio's)

Iam still getting 20 days data only. Any easy to understand fix to get 60 day intrada data?

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Quote from j_medved:

60 days on intraday - assuming you got the patch, go to OPTIONS/Edit Preferences menu, CHARTS tab, MULTI-DAY sub-tab and increase the max # of days there to 60 [/B]

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60 days is a change done in the patch that ydfah posted (earlier in this thread)

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Quote from j_medved:

60 days is a change done in the patch that ydfah posted (earlier in this thread)

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Quote from youngamerican:

I was told by two different TD people, Harrison and Bill, that QT will no longer be supported after 2011. The program will still work but if an issue comes up, ie. datafeed compatability, no one will be around to fix it. As I try out different platforms I realize how good QT really is.

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See the comments below from an earlier post (back around page 29 of this board)

This allows you to run QT..no ad's etc.....

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shfly

Registered: Dec 2000
Posts: 154



08-30-11 01:57 PM

Quote from ydfah:

Go to: http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/261b2f3fa7_3.78MB

Then about in the middle of the page look for Click Here To Download in blue letters. Click that to start the download.

Here is what's different after applying the patch:
1) Registration - This version is always registered for everyone, no matter what
2) max # of days on intraday charts increased from 20 to 60 - it still defaults to 20, but you can go to preferences and increase to 60. NOTE: right now there are 2 sources that can backfill 60 - TDA and IQFeed. But for others, QT will still store the data so you will build it up over time.


Thanks for the patch. (Actually, today was the first time I had an issue with logon to QT & IQFeed...Gave me only 2days intraday+also the ads, that was solved with patch/re-entering the reg code).

Re. item #2: How do you get more than the 10 days of intraday on the charts? Cannot go beyond the 10 in preferences...Using IQFeed as my feed...(Don't use AMTD as my broker).

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Quote from shfly:

Thought I got it...will check into it a little later.

Thanks.

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Dumb question on my part for not reading the entire thread, but is QT doomed or not by the end of 2011?

Instead of Yahoo for Historical back fill, using Default ,solved my problem.
Thanks Medved Ji!

Now below "Back up all symbols" ,"Historical Back up all symbols " appears.

I have downloaded "qtfix" zipped file .

First I inserted in to "QT" folder in the "programme files" and then tried to unzip it. It did n't.
Then I kept it in the desktop ,unzipped and sent to QT folder.

But still Iam not able to increase to 60 days. ( Edit preferences-multiday timeframe-max no days tab)

Iam a TD a/c holder and use TDAM for quotes.

I guess the patch is not implemented yet even though sitting inside "QT programme " folder. I have to figure it out how?

Iam using win 7 ultimate.
I have no log in issues after the unzipped patch went in to the folder.

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Quote from keviniyengar:

First I inserted in to "QT" folder in the "programme files" and then tried to unzip it. It did n't.

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I take it QT has been extended beyond 2011?

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Quote from LEAPup:

I take it QT has been extended beyond 2011?

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Just now I re applied the qt.fix patch. (instead of seperate folder ,copy all the files extracted and pasted in QT folder) 60 days data working.
Thanks Medved Ji. and the gentleman who gave the patch.
I normally keep up to 10 charts (different symbols) in 1min,10 tick,0.1 & 0.3 range bar,some in voulme bar,some in P&F (0.005x10) like that.

My lap top not that strong. (only 2 gb ram/dual core 4 years old)

60 days intra day chart in too many charts in high volume/high tick symbols like SPY,XLE etc will freeze.
so reduced intraday charts to 4-5 and 2 historical charts.

A doubt: just to check I deleted all intra day data in XOM and backfilled using TD customer back fill.it gives 20 day only. so it has to accumulate over period of time-right? not instant 60 day from TD Am back fill ?
thanks

Quote Tracker 60 days intra day data working great

Thanks to posters in this forum and Mr Medved, 60 days intraday data is working for me with TDameritrade as my data provider.

Is there anyway of editing these files... comsec_au.lgs - comsec_au.mkd - comsec_au.sdf. as the data source has updated the website, Logon works retrieving data doesn't.

Thank you

Latest for Quotetracker

Seem BigCharts stopped working a few days ago and this is the response from the help desk:

"The BigCharts are no longer working in QT as QT was designed in Delphi code and can no longer be updated. You can still use BigCharts as a Hist Backfill source under Options> Data Sources. Then you can open a regular Historical Chart with that feed."

Reply to follow up question:

"QT is in the beginning of the draw-down process. Too early to have very much info available. QT was programmed in Delphi for Windows 95 and is rapidly reaching an unmaintainable state, so we are trying to integrate as many features as we can in to Thinkorswim from TD Ameritrade before that happens. When the drawdown is complete, QT will no longer be supported or maintained. In the meantime, we recommend trying out Thinkorswim. If you need any assistance with it or a walkthrough, just let us know and we'll see if we can get someone at TD Ameritrade to give you a call."

Just to clear up the BS being shoveled - QT is written in Delphi, but NOT for Windows 95! QT doesn't even run on Windows 95. and the reason they cannot manage or update it is because they don't have anyone that knows it, not because of technology.

Jerry, a HUGE THANK YOU to you, Mike, et al, for the faithful, practical, & valuable yet cheap service you have provided for all these years. Wish so much it didn't have to wind down like this.

~William

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Quote from j_medved:

Just to clear up the BS being shoveled - the reason they cannot manage or update it is because they don't have anyone that knows it

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Maybe if all Quote Tracker users sent TDAmeritrade an
e-mail saying we will switch brokerage firms if we can't use
QT, they would change their minds.
Fidelity and some other firms offer cheaper rates but I would
stay with Ameritrade just for QT.

After trading with TD for quite some time and trading a lot of contracts everymonth,I pay 5$ for stock and options $ 5+ 0.75/contract.
Only iB is cheaper with out a ticket fee for options .For International customers not all brokerages work out.
QT works well for me even with ping around 350-500 to USA from middle of nowhere in South Asia and that too 3G mobile USB dongle broadband .No fixed line adsl BB for the last 2 years.

I've just heard about this and I'm devastated. I live in Australia and use live data feed from etrade for intraday. Will this all end in the new year? Any plans to keep QT alive?

Jerry, they tell me that QT inline mini charts can probably run in ThinkOrSwim using thinkScript, but not sure. Is that possible.

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Quote from reid5525:

Jerry, they tell me that QT inline mini charts can probably run in ThinkOrSwim using thinkScript, but not sure. Is that possible.

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> I normally keep up to 10 charts (different symbols) in 1min,10 tick,0.1 & 0.3 range bar,some in voulme bar,some in P&F (0.005x10) like that.
> My lap top not that strong. (only 2 gb ram/dual core 4 years old)
> 60 days intra day chart in too many charts in high volume/high tick symbols like SPY,XLE etc will freeze.


Setup here:

2004' laptop, 1500 Mhz Pentium-M, 1 GB of RAM, Windows XP Professional SP3, 60 GB drive, driving additional external LCD, using QT with 60-day patch, having approx. 20 simultaneous intra-day charts open, plus raw data and Level 2 window.

QT runs smoothly on this setup, memory usage stays well below 100 MB. I don't think I would be able to do this ith any other trading/charting software that is out there.

Hoping QT will be there for long time to come - I seen few other trading/charting platforms and nothing comes close in terms of usability, quote data presentational accuracy, abilities and features, agility, efficiency and lightness on computational resources. It's just showing great software engineering craftsmanship and devotion of its maker.

I wish somebody (JM?) would be able to devote his time and resources and work on issuing unofficial patches every now and then to keep QT working with TDAmeritrade/ThinkTech servers/data feeds, and/or other providers. Or; to share knowledge, know-how, code and insights on ways to do it. It shouldn't be that hard to adapt it to speak TDA (or other's) protocol after all.

They tell me that, "It will no longer be supported or maintained, but when the registration servers are taken down and as feeds change, we won't be updating them (silently or through a full release), so things will probably stop working pretty quickly. Some feeds like Yahoo will probably work for awhile, though".

R.I.P QT - one of the great charting packages of our lifetime. Supposedly, going EOL shortly, I was told. Well, I hope Jerry got a good pile of cash for selling out, at least - he deserves that. ToS is crap IMO, and extremely non-intuitive to use. I have had a lot of trouble porting QT scripts/charts over to ToS. I have found that almost everything has ported over to the free version of NinjaTrader, so my backup is ready to go.

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Quote from hayman:

R.I.P QT - one of the great charting packages of our lifetime. Supposedly, going EOL shortly, I was told. Well, I hope Jerry got a good pile of cash for selling out, at least - he deserves that. ToS is crap IMO, and extremely non-intuitive to use. I have had a lot of trouble porting QT scripts/charts over to ToS. I have found that almost everything has ported over to the free version of NinjaTrader, so my backup is ready to go.

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Isn't this is the end of updates and support for QT?The program will continue to work as normal I believe

Lots of memories with QT. Some were happy, some sad, and Some very angry ones. No, not QT's fault . Possibly the best customer service, and support from a software company.

Rest in peace!

Schaefer

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Quote from shfly:

Plan on using QT (and IQFeed) in 2102...Gotta believe!!! And as you said, Qt's simply the best!

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Quote from BSAM:

2102 huh?
Think QT will last that long?

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With the fanfare QT has, I would have thought someone would have done something by now to keep the s/w going...

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Quote from shfly:

Plan on using QT (and IQFeed) in 2102...Gotta believe!!! And as you said, Qt's simply the best!

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Yeah, TOS is clumsy as hell, Sosnoff blew it with the design.

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Quote from reid5525:

"Plan on using QT (and IQFeed) in 2102". Can you back that up with anything solid.

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Apparently TDA silently and remotely removed OptionsXpress as a quote source. I found a patch that will address this issue, as well as add IQFeed back in too.

Go to: http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/a4988abdfc_3.89MB

Then after filling in the dumb box, look for Click Here To Download in blue letters. Click that to start the download.

what's so special about QT that any of the other charting platforms can't do?

Well for starters, it can illicit people to ask mindless questions!

If you have an account with TDameritrade, tell them to keep QT alive, otherwise you will close your account with TD ameritrade.

If you are not current a customer of TDAmeritrae, call them and tell them that you are interested in opening an account with TDAmeritrade and depositing xxxxxx amount of money, ONLY IF TDameritrade promises to keep QT alive.

When enough voice is heard, TDAmeritrade cannot ignore that.

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Quote from freewilly:

If you have an account with TDameritrade, tell them to keep QT alive, otherwise you will close your account with TD ameritrade.

If you are not current a customer of TDAmeritrae, call them and tell them that you are interested in opening an account with TDAmeritrade and depositing xxxxxx amount of money, ONLY IF TDameritrade promises to keep QT alive.

When enough voice is heard, TDAmeritrade cannot ignore that.

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Quote from LEAPup:

IMO They're not smart enough to keep the s/w going, so don't waste your time jerking their chain unless you've got a mid seven digit account to talk for you.

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anything that is similar to QT out in the market now?

looks like they are open to adding QT features to TOS. I put in a request and they tell me it's in the pipeline, not know if was in before or after. email qt support

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Quote from freewilly:

If you have an account with TDameritrade, tell them to keep QT alive, otherwise you will close your account with TD ameritrade.

If you are not current a customer of TDAmeritrae, call them and tell them that you are interested in opening an account with TDAmeritrade and depositing xxxxxx amount of money, ONLY IF TDameritrade promises to keep QT alive.

When enough voice is heard, TDAmeritrade cannot ignore that.

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Quote from ydfah:

Apparently TDA silently and remotely removed OptionsXpress as a quote source. I found a patch that will address this issue, as well as add IQFeed back in too.

Go to: http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/a4988abdfc_3.89MB

Then after filling in the dumb box, look for Click Here To Download in blue letters. Click that to start the download.

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Quote from ydfah:

Apparently TDA silently and remotely removed OptionsXpress as a quote source. I found a patch that will address this issue, as well as add IQFeed back in too.

Go to: http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/a4988abdfc_3.89MB

Then after filling in the dumb box, look for Click Here To Download in blue letters. Click that to start the download.

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Quote from rm3:

Is there a patch to restore the BigCharts
options when right clicking on a stock?

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Quote from stepan7:

Does it register QT?

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Quote from ydfah:

No. There is no point - use Historical charts. They have all the functionality of BC and more.

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So I downloaded the patch. Now what? Do I extract them into my Quotetracker file which I have located in "program files"? I extracted them into "my documents" but of course I suppose that does nothing.

Help please.

Exit QuoteTracker then extract the patch files into the folder that QuoteTracker is installed in, overwriting any duplicates when prompted. If you're uncomfortable doing that, first copy the entire QuoteTracker folder to a backup location. This way if something goes wrong, you can copy the original files back to the QuoteTracker folder again and be right where you were prior to installing the patch.

After copying the patch files it shouldn't be necessary to restart your computer, but if something doesn't seem to be working right, then try a restart.

ydfah, what can qtusers.com do to keep qt running after drawdown.

Nothing, qtusers is an independent site with no official affiliations.

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Quote from rm3:

I used to use both of them. Historical charts seems to
have trouble showing dividend payments and there is
no indicator for dividend yield.

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oops. meant to say dividends and earnings..

I really can't understand why others are wanting to start using QT with it about to disappear from the radar.

Imo, move onto something else. This thread keeps coming up, but it's a dead horse.

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Quote from j_medved:

Historical Charts will show Dividends and Yields IF you use "BigCharts" as the backfill source for Historical data. OPTIONS/Data Sources menu, HIST BACKFILL tab.

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since the data is coming from BC, it should be the same. Try clearing the data on the chart and see if the dividend data will fill in. As for Yield, its not there (my mistake in the original reply). If I remember correctly, it was not a piece of data available in the raw data coming from BC.

I can't get any more than 10 days intraday data on charts. I have QT running on two different machines and have installed the patch on both, but still am limited to 10 days on both.

I went to options/edit preferences/charts/Multi-Day Timeframes and increased max days on charts to 20. I have tried it on both machines and have rebooted. I applied the patch with QT closed.

On one machine I extracted the files directly to the QT folder in program files and on the other machine I copied and pasted the files. Same result on both. Any help would be great.

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Quote from LEAPup:

I really can't understand why others are wanting to start using QT with it about to disappear from the radar.

Imo, move onto something else. This thread keeps coming up, but it's a dead horse.

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Quote from cgr1971:

I can't get any more than 10 days intraday data on charts.

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Quotetracker replacement?

@J_Medved ... I have spent quite a bit of time with TOS and sadly find it so inferior to QT. Harrison wrote me and said it has more capabilities so I dived in but, am not thrilled. The Thinkscript code is okay but, I find the charts are hard to read, the candles and volume are different than QT charts. Configuring the charts is a pain and they don't hold as much information because of the huge headers over every indicator.

Can you recommend a replacement software or are you building anything new to replace QT? Any chance, TD Ameritrade will give the program back to you LOL? I wish ...

I am using the TD Ameritrade feed. I will give it a try this week and see if it starts to accumulate days.

with TDA as a backfill source, you should be getting 60 days backfill. And even without the patch, you should get 20 days, not 10. Are you able to set max # of days to be more than 20? If not, then you are not running the patch. Also, make sure that the backfill source is set to TDA on OPTIONS/Data sources menu, BACKFILL tab.

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Quote from cgr1971:

I am using the TD Ameritrade feed. I will give it a try this week and see if it starts to accumulate days.

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j_medved, that did it. It was set to "default backfill site". I switched it to TDA and it bumped me up to 20 days. It will allow me to run the max # of days up to 60 days now. Thank you for the help.

I am going to speculate here as to what is happening. Selling QT to TDA a few years back typically precludes the original owner from starting a competitive alternative. I believe it is called a "non compete clause". There have not been any beta versions or updates to QT since 9/23/2010. Scuttlebutt is that QT is going to die on the vine sometime down the road. But nothing firm ever is stated. The original owner has stated that there is nobody savvy enough at TDA to keep the thing going due to lack of intelligence and/or motivation.

Now here is the interesting part. The original owner has always been drifting around the periphery regarding QT over these past few years. Still answers questions. Why? Well, how would you feel if your life's work was simply tossed in the trash?

For all you QT users, and I am one since the late 90's, fear not. Read between the lines. If/when TDA gives up on QT completely, I have a feeling somebody will swoop in with an alternative. I have always been perplexed why there was never a monthly charge for this software. Most other charting services are about $100.00 per month. If you are a profitable trader this is a minimal cost of doing business. I for one would not object to rewarding the inventor of making money off of this product. There are other charting software products out there such as Esignal and Multicharts.
But if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I think things will work out for the better. Let's wait and see.

Here is the email I got from QT support about 3 weeks ago......



No, there is no datafeed that will still be supported after the drawdown, but that is not necessarily the end of this year, as a date hasn't even been set yet.

QT is in the beginning of the draw-down process. Too early to have very much info available. QT was programmed in Delphi for Windows 95 and is rapidly reaching an unmaintainable state, so we are trying to integrate as many features as we can in to ThinkOrSwim from TD Ameritrade before that happens. When the drawdown is complete, QT will no longer be supported or maintained. In the meantime, we recommend trying out ThinkOrSwim. If you need any assistance with it or a walkthrough, just let us know and we'll see if we can get someone at TD Ameritrade to give you a call.


Cheers,
Harrison

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Quote from tradin4profits:

Here is the email I got from QT support about 3 weeks ago......



No, there is no datafeed that will still be supported after the drawdown, but that is not necessarily the end of this year, as a date hasn't even been set yet.

QT is in the beginning of the draw-down process. Too early to have very much info available. QT was programmed in Delphi for Windows 95 and is rapidly reaching an unmaintainable state, so we are trying to integrate as many features as we can in to ThinkOrSwim from TD Ameritrade before that happens. When the drawdown is complete, QT will no longer be supported or maintained. In the meantime, we recommend trying out ThinkOrSwim. If you need any assistance with it or a walkthrough, just let us know and we'll see if we can get someone at TD Ameritrade to give you a call.


Cheers,
Harrison

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TDA's excuse sounds like BS to me. Unstable? Unmaintainable? They haven't touched it in over a year. The only thing they continue to do is run the registration server. So what? You don't even communicate with their registration server with the patch. I suppose someday QT will not be compatible with various brokers or data sources. I guess that is what they are referring too. Whatever. It keeps on working for me.

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Quote from high99:

TDA's excuse sounds like BS to me. Unstable? Unmaintainable? They haven't touched it in over a year. The only thing they continue to do is run the registration server. So what? You don't even communicate with their registration server with the patch. I suppose someday QT will not be compatible with various brokers or data sources. I guess that is what they are referring too. Whatever. It keeps on working for me.

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That's the key. As long as the data source doesn't change anything, QT should keep working forever.

Yes that's my hope. I have Etrade intraday data coming in for the ASX. If that keeps working and I can still get EOD/historical I'll be happy.

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Quote from tradin4profits:

Here is the email I got from QT support about 3 weeks ago......



No, there is no datafeed that will still be supported after the drawdown, but that is not necessarily the end of this year, as a date hasn't even been set yet.

QT is in the beginning of the draw-down process. Too early to have very much info available. QT was programmed in Delphi for Windows 95 and is rapidly reaching an unmaintainable state, so we are trying to integrate as many features as we can in to ThinkOrSwim from TD Ameritrade before that happens. When the drawdown is complete, QT will no longer be supported or maintained. In the meantime, we recommend trying out ThinkOrSwim. If you need any assistance with it or a walkthrough, just let us know and we'll see if we can get someone at TD Ameritrade to give you a call.


Cheers,
Harrison

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ThinkorSwim vs. Quotetracker

I have spent hours on TOS. It is not user friendly and the logic to get something done is cumbersome. So far, I really dislike it. I spent 45 minutes in "training" yesterday and knew more than the trainer. He couldn't answer any of my questions. Here are some of the probelems.

1. Title bars on charts take up a huge amount of room and cannot be reconfigured. This means only volume and perhaps 2 other indicators fit on a single chart before they get too small to read.
2. Volume and candles are not the same as on the QT charts. I don't know what to think about that.
3. Pivots are all in dots and cannot be changed to lines unless you program them in Thinkscript.
4. Thinkscript is supported via email right now.
5. No volume plus EMA unless you program it in Thinkscript.
6. Prophet charts are easier to read but, don't offer much flexibility in customizing the way they look. Prophet charts are a different program that they incorporated into TOS so, they offer two different charting programs in TOS.
7. Can't find your basic RSI indicator similar to the one in QT.

I'm looking at a lot of different charting programs and have not been able to find anything as flexible as QT. This is frustrating!

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Quote from high99:

That's the key. As long as the data source doesn't change anything, QT should keep working forever.

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The data source comes from many places. MBTrading is mine. As long as "they" don't change anything, QT and MBT computers talk to each other.

Re: ThinkorSwim vs. Quotetracker

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Quote from desertcynlite:

I have spent hours on TOS. It is not user friendly and the logic to get something done is cumbersome. So far, I really dislike it. I spent 45 minutes in "training" yesterday and knew more than the trainer. He couldn't answer any of my questions. Here are some of the probelems.

1. Title bars on charts take up a huge amount of room and cannot be reconfigured. This means only volume and perhaps 2 other indicators fit on a single chart before they get too small to read.
2. Volume and candles are not the same as on the QT charts. I don't know what to think about that.
3. Pivots are all in dots and cannot be changed to lines unless you program them in Thinkscript.
4. Thinkscript is supported via email right now.
5. No volume plus EMA unless you program it in Thinkscript.
6. Prophet charts are easier to read but, don't offer much flexibility in customizing the way they look. Prophet charts are a different program that they incorporated into TOS so, they offer two different charting programs in TOS.
7. Can't find your basic RSI indicator similar to the one in QT.

I'm looking at a lot of different charting programs and have not been able to find anything as flexible as QT. This is frustrating!

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Anyone experiencing QT problems today? Having some login problems here even though Ameritrade streamer is working fine.

QT is working fine for me today. Sorry you are having issues.

Nope. MBtrading feed coming in fine for the emini's.

CCI Indicator

I have been trying multiple charting programs the last few weeks and have not been able to recreate the QT CCI Indicator. I'm not sure why the formula would be so different in other programs. It is based on a (H+L+C)/3, a 14 period and a 6 signal. This is QT's standard CCI with no modifications. Has anyone been able to do this elsewhere or know how I can duplicate it. I am amazed at the descrepancies I see in programs....even with candles and volume.

Tech Indicators across various programs

I have also tried to duplicate indicators across different charting programs, generally with little success. The values are usually "close" but different enough to make you wonder. I don't use tick charts. I think that it may be more data related than calc related. Virtually all tech ind are well documented and the differences are usually more than simple rounding errors. The way they build their "time data" (1 min. bars, 5 min., etc). which is then used in the calculations can result in different resulting values even if different programs are using the same formula. It is a little frustrating when you rely on something that "works" for you and you can't duplicate it.

I too am torn up about losing QuoteTracker- probably the greatest piece of trading software I ever used.


I am messing around with freestockcharts.com these days. Its not bad- not as fully awesome at QT is/was, but its intuitive at least and easy to manipulate.

check it out

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Quote from quotetrader:

I too am torn up about losing QuoteTracker- probably the greatest piece of trading software I ever used.


I am messing around with freestockcharts.com these days. Its not bad- not as fully awesome at QT is/was, but its intuitive at least and easy to manipulate.

check it out

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TDAmeritrade is under the impression that not many people use Quotetracker. I have been working with the ThinkorSwim people trying to get features from QT incorporated into TOS. Now, this is what they say they are doing but, I have yet to see a useful response to my input or changes made to TOS. However, I continue to email and call them many times a week.

I recommend that anyone who wants to keep using QT do the same so they know there are a number of us out there. At least we might be able to buy some time before they drop support of it.

Trade Support Line at TDAmeritrade: 1-800-672-2098.

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Quote from desertcynlite:

TDAmeritrade is under the impression that not many people use Quotetracker.

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I believe QT was sold to Ameritrade in 2006, about three years before TD acquired TOS. TD probably wanted two things from the QT purchase:
1) Decent charting capability, 2) the QT paid subscriber list for its new TD customer potential - (and perhaps a third reason - preventing a competing brokerage firm from buying a superb package and using it as a marketing tool)

Let's say that Jerry (and Mazel) had 10,000 paid subscribers and twice that in non-paying, ad reading users. If I recall I was paying around $40/50 a year. So that would have produced about $400,000 to $500,000 a year in gross sales. So Jerry probably got about $3M to $5M for his company. Who knows. Anyway it has been 5 years since the sale. TD began restricting the brokerage interface almost immediately and tried to get QT users to switch to them for brokerage services. Three years later TD bought TOS. TOS has two charting packages, their own and the Prophet system which TOS had purchased. Why support three?

Assume that there are now 5000 paying QT users @ $60/yr. $300,000 is not much for supporting a package and there are probably no remaining users that plan on switching to TD/TOS. It was just a good business decision even though it didn't make loyal subscribers very happy.

Jack

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Quote from shfly:

I'm still using QT & IQFeed...so far so good...and I just paid a another year for IQFeed...so I'm optimistic...(or maybe it's wishful thinking ;)

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Quote from desertcynlite:

TDAmeritrade is under the impression that not many people use Quotetracker. I have been working with the ThinkorSwim people trying to get features from QT incorporated into TOS. Now, this is what they say they are doing but, I have yet to see a useful response to my input or changes made to TOS. However, I continue to email and call them many times a week.

I recommend that anyone who wants to keep using QT do the same so they know there are a number of us out there. At least we might be able to buy some time before they drop support of it.

Trade Support Line at TDAmeritrade: 1-800-672-2098.

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Quote from iqfeed:

While our latest IQFeed release "broke" support for some 3rd party apps that aren't being updated to support our latest and greatest, we do have a workaround for QuoteTracker users. Just contact our support group and we can get it working with IQFeed. With this patch, there is no reason for QT to not continue working with IQFeed welll into 2012.

In addition, we now support CME group exchange fee waivers for Interactive Brokers customers so if you are trading through QuoteTracker with IB and using IQFeed data you qualify for exchange fee waivers, saving traders some money.

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It's good to see DTN and IQFeed showing concern for QuoteTracker users. I've used their datafeed in the past and it was always good.

I'm using TD Ameritrade's datafeed(including Level II) now (it's almost free) and I wonder if that will become unavailable to the patched QT once TDA shuts QT down. Does anyone know about this?

As you might tell by the replies in this thread, nobody seems to know much of anything regarding the continuation of QT. It is a mystery. Time will tell. That's what makes it so exciting!!!!

Patch http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/a4988abdfc_3.89MB

doesn't seem to work for me . Where can I find a working copy?

Holiday Schedule?

Is there an updated Holiday date schedule File? Running the Qtfix with IQFeed.

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Quote from desertcynlite:

TDAmeritrade is under the impression that not many people use Quotetracker. I have been working with the ThinkorSwim people trying to get features from QT incorporated into TOS. Now, this is what they say they are doing but, I have yet to see a useful response to my input or changes made to TOS. However, I continue to email and call them many times a week.

I recommend that anyone who wants to keep using QT do the same so they know there are a number of us out there. At least we might be able to buy some time before they drop support of it.

Trade Support Line at TDAmeritrade: 1-800-672-2098.

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Even more effective would be a petition with 100 or more QT users signing. That might catch the CEO's eye. Up to this point it's only scattered individuals complaining, easy to dismiss from a financial point of view. Especially since the complaints seems to go no further than the tech support supervisors.

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Quote from barata:

Even more effective would be a petition with 100 or more QT users signing. That might catch the CEO's eye. Up to this point it's only scattered individuals complaining, easy to dismiss from a financial point of view. Especially since the complaints seems to go no further than the tech support supervisors.

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Holiday's

This is what I used for the 3 exchanges I follow:

CME 12/25/2011 - Full Day
CME 12/26/2011 - 05:00 AM - 03:15 PM - Partial Day

ICE 12/25/2011 - Full Day
ICE 12/26/2011 - 06:00 AM - 06:00 PM - Partial Day

US Equities 12/26/2011 - Full Day

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Quote from iqfeed:

While our latest IQFeed release "broke" support for some 3rd party apps that aren't being updated to support our latest and greatest, we do have a workaround for QuoteTracker users. Just contact our support group and we can get it working with IQFeed. With this patch, there is no reason for QT to not continue working with IQFeed welll into 2012.

In addition, we now support CME group exchange fee waivers for Interactive Brokers customers so if you are trading through QuoteTracker with IB and using IQFeed data you qualify for exchange fee waivers, saving traders some money.

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Sad to say, I spoke to Jerry yesterday and he indicated to me that QT will not be coming back in any kind of "version" in 2012 with his help.

Sounds like he is totally out of the picture.

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Quote from Landis82:

Sad to say, I spoke to Jerry yesterday and he indicated to me that QT will not be coming back in any kind of "version" in 2012 with his help.

Sounds like he is totally out of the picture.

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Do you think this is because Jerry does not want to offer a QT like program or do you think this is because he sold QT to TDAT and the non compete agreement will not allow him to offer a QT like software program?

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gotta be a non-compete agreement. and didn't he sell qt to tdameritrade?

More than few other programs out there more robust than QT, look at SC, AmiBroker, MT4, Frechartsv6.8 etc

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Quote from xiaodre:

gotta be a non-compete agreement. and didn't he sell qt to tdameritrade?

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Here is a new download link for the QT patch file: qtfix 12-2011.zip

This patch only delays the inevitable, sooner or later it will break..for good without support. Might be wise to hedge your bet here start looking for something else.

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Quote from tickdaddy:

More than few other programs out there more robust than QT, look at SC, AmiBroker, MT4, Frechartsv6.8 etc

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Quote from stock777:

welcome new user.

you have scored an epic fail before your 12th post.

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Quote from ydfah:

Here is a new download link for the QT patch file: qtfix 12-2011.zip

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Quote from tickdaddy:

Newbs like QT because of its simplicity, not its robustness.

A robust program is something along lines of Amibroker, or even SierraChart.

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Quote from pescador:

It all depends on your platform, and on what you want to do.
QT is rock solid and robust on Linux, whereas AmiBroker is not.
I like Amibroker, but on Linux (and perhaps even on Windoof's - have never tried) is rather shaky.
Additionally, QT is superb for charting, whereas AmiBroker is substandard in this regard.
AB is excellent at backtesting, custom indicator and strategy creation, where QT is hopelessly substandard.

I absolutely love QT, but I am a discretionary trader, and do not use, though I appreciate AB's strength at automation.
What I use AB for sometimes is backtesting.

If someone created a programm with QT's charting capabilities, its robustness on Linux, and AB's automation, backtesting and strategy development capabilities, it would be the most perfect of all possible trading worlds IMO.

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Quote from tickdaddy:

How is QT's charting capabilities superior to Amibroker for instance?
QT has basic charts (what program doesn't?), basic indicators and rudimentary user programming.

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Quote from tickdaddy:

How is QT's charting capabilities superior to Amibroker for instance?
QT has basic charts (what program doesn't?), basic indicators and rudimentary user programming.

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I will not engage tickdaddy, as clearly she is a moron.

My news years resolution is not to suffer fools.


Which means many of you will not be hearing from me.

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Quote from high99:

Downloaded the patch. When extracting the files, a pop-up appears saying "there are no files to extract".

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Quote from tickdaddy:

How is QT's charting capabilities superior to Amibroker for instance?
QT has basic charts (what program doesn't?), basic indicators and rudimentary user programming.

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Ensign had the same problem; dumped it a while back (4 years ago), so cannot comment on how or if it has changed.

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Quote from ydfah:

Here is a new download link for the QT patch file: qtfix 12-2011.zip

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Quote from siki13:

Try drawing a trendline in amibroker and than zoom price in and out ,you
will see line jumping and not staying in one place.

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Quote from ydfah:

Try downloading it again because I just downloaded and extracted all files without any issues.

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Quote from Spunky:

I use Amibroker and draw trendlines all the time and zoom in and out. Works great. Rock solid.

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Interesting. I noticed that after applying the patch, in the upper left hand corner of QT, the drop down box for "ads" has disappeared. Prior to the patch, my registered copy always had the option to click on the ads box if you wanted to watch them on a slow day.

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Quote from siki13:

You are incompetent idiot or amibroker affiliate and you made me waste 5 min
of my life to download demo and to see that amibroker is still crap and still has that trendline issue i mention before.
5 years ago i mention that to their customer service but i guess they dont care.

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Hey Siky don't take posting's on an anonymous message board so personal. Nobody is threatening your turf. Have a glass of milk and a cookie or something. Everything will be alright

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Quote from Spunky:

On the contrary, it is you that is an incompetent idiot that does not have the intelligence to properly use Amibroker. I have never had any problems using trendlines. If you want to see your problem then look in a mirror.

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Quote from siki13:

Here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...d&v=kH7EvIRQgPQ

If you couldn't notice that yourself , even after i describe the problem than you must be thick as a brick.

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Verizon instituted a $2.00 charge for the privilege
of paying your bill but rescinded it because of heavy
consumer outrage.
So, some corporations are forced to listen to
their customers. Maybe there's hope for QT if we pull on
TDA's chain hard enough.

little known is thats the second time verizon tried to get a fee installed.

the first time it died almost as quickly.

only Nitro is failing as fast as Verizons fees.

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"Please help save Quotetracker" forum started 12/30/2011:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...&postid=3402434

Wjen I looked to QT a few months ago took about 5 minutes to learn everything. After a few other very good apps I decided on Sierra charts. A deep & rich feature set that I'm still learing all the nuanaces!
Very active community of users, and new great features come out of development several times per month! They listen to you too!

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Quote from lucky lucille:

Wjen I looked to QT a few months ago took about 5 minutes to learn everything. After a few other very good apps I decided on Sierra charts. A deep & rich feature set that I'm still learing all the nuanaces!
Very active community of users, and new great features come out of development several times per month! They listen to you too!

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Thanks for the sales pitch Lucky. Are you saying since it only took you 5 minutes, that QT is for mouth breathers only? And SC is for Steven Hawking types such as yourself? That's really good to know. Perhaps you can give us other gems for everyday living as well. Like we shouldn't talk with our mouths full, and make sure we wipe our ass really well before going out to play. Please keep us filled in. Please.

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anyone notice that most of the amtd servers are lagged garbage?

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Quote from stock777:

anyone notice that most of the amtd servers are lagged garbage?

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Quote from rm3:

I used to use Fidelity to get quotes but it looks like that
option is not working now.

Is there a patch for that?

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amtd l2 servers unreliable as hell lately
no one else sees this?

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A bear since 1958 and proud of it.

I called TD Ameritrade regarding QuoteTracker. The rep I spoke with at TD said that while it is being wrapped up, they don't have any timetable as to when it will actually cease to exist. He said they have some products that have been in this stage since 2005.

I wish I had better news to report. However, Cobra Trading clears Interactive Brokers, which allows integration with QuoteTracker. We're offering $0.004/share ($1 minimum, +/- ECN fees and rebates) commissions, for as long as QuoteTracker is alive, to anyone who opens an IB daytrading account here at Cobra. Please PM me if you're interested.

Best to all.

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Cobra Trading, Inc. – Member FINRA and SIPC
Visit us at www.cobratrading.com to request a free live demo

Looks like TD Waterhouse Canada no longer works as a data source. I can login with the 'web login' option but quotes fail. I checked the fetched page and found:


We're Sorry

The page you requested cannot be found. It may have been moved or deleted, or you may have typed its location incorrectly. Click one of the links below to access our site.

TD Waterhouse Home Page

WebBroker

You may also wish to update your bookmarks to our site at this time.

Can anyone verify stalling quotes on Ameritrade L2 servers and QT (also using Command Center)

Every minute or so the L2 stops updating for about 6 seconds, on many or all symbols, but possible only certain servers. See problem on both QT and Command Center simultaneously.

As you might imagine, getting AMTD tech support to deal with this is an uphill battle.

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Quote from lowpickr:

Looks like TD Waterhouse Canada no longer works as a data source. I can login with the 'web login' option but quotes fail. I checked the fetched page and found:

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run the patch and get with a new broker or data source, or download multicharts free version?

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Quote from xiaodre:

run the patch and get with a new broker or data source, or download multicharts free version?

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Same problem for me and IB.

Yesterday had quotes and depth of market for all stocks and futures. THIS morning.... futures are fine and stock quotes give current pricing.... but depth of market has gone poof...

Guess it's time to learn Multichart's ins and outs.

No sense in beating a dead horse with patches, etc to keep QT working.

This is really too bad, cuz QT has been one helluva charting package for me. Easy to use, etc for a guy that is NOT tech savvy.

Buh bye QT.....

Haroki, nothing changed with IB. Works fine with QT. I am connected to it right now. And if there was a problem, there would be far FAR more people complaining about it.

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Quote from Haroki:

Same problem for me and IB.

Yesterday had quotes and depth of market for all stocks and futures. THIS morning.... futures are fine and stock quotes give current pricing.... but depth of market has gone poof...

Guess it's time to learn Multichart's ins and outs.

No sense in beating a dead horse with patches, etc to keep QT working.

This is really too bad, cuz QT has been one helluva charting package for me. Easy to use, etc for a guy that is NOT tech savvy.

Buh bye QT.....

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Hey Jerry...

How's your DOM? The DOM on the Level II/Market Depth box is blank... shows nothing now... quote prices are fine.... data subscriptions haven't changed...

On futures, it's fine. But for stocks, it's gone poof. Was fine yesterday.

Like this:

I don't have L II enabled on the IB account, so can't compare.

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Quote from siki13:

Here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...d&v=kH7EvIRQgPQ

If you couldn't notice that yourself , even after i describe the problem than you must be thick as a brick.

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Quote from j_medved:

I don't have L II enabled on the IB account, so can't compare.

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Quote from Spunky:

Like I said, I do not have the problem that you are having. I can change the zoom all day and the trendline stays the same. I suppose that I could intentionally play around with the Snap to price % threshold setting and change the scale to arithmetic or logarithmic depending on whether I use straight lines or hi and lo points and get something that resembles what you are showing. Any charting software worth its salt would have those options and do the same.

Obviously you have a lot to learn about charting as you have the problem and cannot fix it. It is not Amibroker. Look in the mirror.

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Haroki:

Any chance the new month we just started changed your subscriptions or number of DOM's authorized?

Jack

Possibly, since I still haven't found the answer.

But as I noted, my data subs haven't changed. Authorization would another issue but have received no notices from IB.

My hunch is that it's an IB issue that I just can't figure out. And to be honest, I'm not putting much effort into it either since I don't REALLY need it.

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Quote from funnyguy:

If someone wouldn't use a cracked version then there should not be any problems at all and all would work fine right from the start. I won't mention any incompetences since the video below speaks for itself.

Here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkujP853hks

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No matter how many trendlines I draw and no matter where they are placed all stay at the same place they were drawn.
For the record in the example I was using the same data that you were using and same symbol and same placement of the trendline. Afterwards I have even used an old demo (same one that you have used. Well, if it was the case). Long story short many of all drawn trend lines all stay at the same position they were placed at. Now I can smell quite some incompetence too.

I stopped by the TD-Ameritrade/Think or Swim exhibit at the New York Trader's Expo. They had a lot of developer types there. I could not get a definitive answer, but based on the number of features they are working on to enhance the capabilities of the TD/TOS platforms, none of them believes that QT is being supported. They said the IT guys are probably keeping the web site up because the cost is inconsequential or no one told them to shut it down.

So I'd say it is gone.

Jack

JackR,

I would think QT would continue to work with IB data as long as IB did not change something on their end that prevented QT from using the IB data feed.

QT mobile version

Does QT have Android mobile version? Or Ameritrade by itself?

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Re: QT mobile version

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Quote from lojze:

Does QT have Android mobile version? Or Ameritrade by itself?

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Ameritrade Mobile Manager

Is it possible that charts refresh only each minute?
So there is no real streaming?

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Quote from Catoosa:
JackR,

I would think QT would continue to work with IB data as long as IB did not change something on their end that prevented QT from using the IB data feed.

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Quote from JackR:

I stopped by the TD-Ameritrade/Think or Swim exhibit at the New York Trader's Expo. They had a lot of developer types there. I could not get a definitive answer, but based on the number of features they are working on to enhance the capabilities of the TD/TOS platforms, none of them believes that QT is being supported. They said the IT guys are probably keeping the web site up because the cost is inconsequential or no one told them to shut it down.

So I'd say it is gone.

Jack

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Quote from JackR:

Catoosa:
I agree. However, a few years ago IB made a change that messed up something in the feed and QT made a fix. If IB makes such a change in the future it is unlikely that QT will be fixed unless whoever developed the patch made available earlier in this thread feels ambitious and develops another patch.

Jack

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FWIW ........ QT still works with their login server. im using IB as data source. No problem.

I have the patch version ready whenever.
Also been working with TWS charts some. Not too bad.

TD Waterhouse

Anyone have an idea of how to get Quotetracker to work with TDWaterhouse again?

Re: TD Waterhouse

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Quote from lp2012:

Anyone have an idea of how to get Quotetracker to work with TDWaterhouse again?

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TDW changed their site so the QT configuration file for it would need to be updated. That would be something that would have to be done by TD Ameritrade, so basically not going to happen. Sorry

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Nothing I can do

Re: Re: Re: TD Waterhouse

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Quote from lp2012:

Is their anything you can do to get back Quotetracker or this the end?
Whatever happens, Thank you for the many years use of this software.

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So was Quotetracker actually helping you make money or was it more like you are sad to see it go because you were used to playing on it and could find things easily?

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Quote from Frank Coolidge:

So was Quotetracker actually helping you make money or was it more like you are sad to see it go because you were used to playing on it and could find things easily?

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Nothing I can do

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Quote from reid5525:

Jerry, how about doing a QT2, and name your price.

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Just think how much better/faster QT2 would be.

With all the money AMTD paid , Jerry could hire some REAL programmers.


jk ,Jerry, you rock.

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Quote from stock777:

Just think how much better/faster QT2 would be.

With all the money AMTD paid , Jerry could hire some REAL programmers.

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Considering TDA's epic failure at monetizing QT and QT's lack of overlap with TOS, I would think TDA would love to get QT off their books.

Seems to me like there's a giant vacuum between the $0/month barchart.com and the $200/month DTN ProphetX's of the world.

Obviously, there is a non-compete contract between Jerry and TDA.
It would be interesting to know when it ends.

It's been almost six long years. That is one long arse non-compete.

Also a non-compete does not preclude a re-purchase.

Jerry has been working hard as the President of Russia these past few years. I saw him on TV the other day. "I will transmit this information to Vladimir". Medved is the American spelling. The Russian spelling has more vowels or something. Now that "Vladimir" is back to being President, Medvedev can drop the "ev" and get back to work making data feed programs and stuff. I heard he is also going to start a website for getting hooked up with potential Russian brides.

QT-IB - No data backfill

I am using QT with IB data...everything was fine thru end of day last friday....as of this A.M. I am only getting current quotes on stocks & futures...I can not get my IB backfill (3 days only) to work any longer...I am using the patched version of IB...is it a coincidence that it stopped working on 4-1 (April Fools??) ... what am I forgetting??????

Re: QT-IB - No data backfill

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Quote from kralcd:

I am using QT with IB data...everything was fine thru end of day last friday....as of this A.M. I am only getting current quotes on stocks & futures...I can not get my IB backfill (3 days only) to work any longer...I am using the patched version of IB...is it a coincidence that it stopped working on 4-1 (April Fools??) ... what am I forgetting??????

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No Backfill

I'm have the same issue with no backfill. My computer froze this morning and when I rebooted, QT wouldn't backfill either with TD Ameritrade or IQFeed. So I though it was due to my computer freezing and ran a disk check which nothing was found. Then I restored QT from several previous backups and still no backfill. I know it's not due to the backfill source because two different sources won't backfill. The yellow backfill box appears with the data number increasing but nothing shows up on charts. I also cleared all data and still nothing.

Soooo, found this your post and maybe it's nothing to do with my computer.

Is QT now dead? I have to have backfill data and have been using QT since 2000.

Is anyone else having this issue?

Jerry, please help! Can this issue be fixed? Or do I need to start using a new charting program? Please help! I love and need QT.

more info

At least I am not alone.... I thought it might just be me or just IB ...More info...I set my pc date back to 3-31...the backfill worked up to 3-31 then started picking up again at the current time...so it appears the issue has something to do with the date....no backfill after 3-31...seems strange...maybe jerry has some thoughts...hopefully....

My backfill is not working, I will use tos today but it is all fancyand will take me 5 years to learn.

all i can say is me, too. no backfill. up untill now, it's been working fine. i've got tdAmeritrade with an unpatched QT.

Same here, no backfill. Logon to logoff all the live data is there, but can't get the IB feed to grab anything for a backfill.

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Quote from koolaidluke:

all i can say is me, too. no backfill. up untill now, it's been working fine. i've got tdAmeritrade with an unpatched QT.

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Quote from Catoosa:

Was the QT patch not a patch?

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Good news for IQFeed users:
http://twitter.com/#!/DTN_IQFeed/st...883727635394560

I just patched mine, and am back in business.

What did they say when you called?
What was the source of the problem & the fix they gave you??
Thanks!

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Quote from kralcd:

What did they say when you called?
What was the source of the problem & the fix they gave you??
Thanks!

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It may be related to the old daylight saving time that kicked in yesterday

Got this from IQfeed support just now:

ftp://www.dtniq.com/iqfeed/qtfix.zip

seems only stock.exe is updated.

Replaced mine stocks.exe with this new one only.

So far so good. Backfill ok now.

DST noooo

Another reason to hate DST lol

just to clarify, the patch isn't ours. We found it online and are providing a link to it for our users as it appears to correct the backfill issue.

For those that can not access the iqfeed ftp site for any reason, you can get the backfill fix here:
http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/77716919/file.html

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Quote from iqfeed:

just to clarify, the patch isn't ours. We found it online and are providing a link to it for our users as it appears to correct the backfill issue.

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Thanks

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Quote from gregiii:

Got this from IQfeed support just now:

ftp://www.dtniq.com/iqfeed/qtfix.zip

seems only stock.exe is updated.

Replaced mine stocks.exe with this new one only.

So far so good. Backfill ok now.

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Quote from Aaron M:

I didn't ask.

I did give support a link to this thread so maybe they can chime in.

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Quote from ydfah:

For those that can not access the iqfeed ftp site for any reason, you can get the backfill fix here:
http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/77716919/file.html

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slowly moving to another supported app might be wise

i use sierrachart, i'm happy

IB user here...new patch looooooks GOOD!!
Thanks soooo much to "Anonymous" et al ....

I just downloaded the zip file. To install the patch, do I just copy over all the files to the existing QuoteTracker folder and overwrite the old duplicate files? (Sorry if this is a stupid question)

Yes...unzip and replace all the files in the QT directory with those contained in the zip....

There are no stupid questions...

Thx! Worked perfectly!

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Quote from jstar:



The file fixed the backfill issue for TD Ameritrade and IQFeed.

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Thank you

Patch totally worked and can use TDA backfill again. Although, I lost all my portfolio data. Bummer. Anyone know how to retrieve that?

Thank you again!!! Huge save!!!

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Quote from edo870:Anyone know how to retrieve that?

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Praise to those who write these QT patches. We can now again move forward into the unknown.

Many thanks to yadfah and others who helped with this backfill fix. Your efforts are greatly appreciated probably more than you know.

Long live QuoteTracker.

JP Patches

Thanks to all for the updates, and the chance to keep it going.

As a long time QT user I am all for the group effort to (source) forge ahead.

It goes here, right? Or have I done it wrong and that is why I still don't have back fill?
C:\Program Files\QuoteTracker

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Quote from scp:

Long live QuoteTracker.

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Quote from Landis82:

Amen.
Jerry is AWESOME!

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Quote from Peri:

It goes here, right? Or have I done it wrong and that is why I still don't have back fill?
C:\Program Files\QuoteTracker

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I'm also having problems with this fix.I had previously installed the old fix and now when I try to install this one I get the message 'Access Denied'!

try closing the program first.

or reboot then try again

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Tried at least a dozen times and it appeared to do what it was supposed to do but .......Got the kid to come try and wiz bang, it appears "fixed" and working now. Thanks to all for the links and help.

When I try to extract the files I get the message'these files already exist would you like to replace them'when I click yes I get access denied.Help!

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Quote from johnk49:

When I try to extract the files I get the message'these files already exist would you like to replace them'when I click yes I get access denied.Help!

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Quote from johnk49:

I'm also having problems with this fix. I had previously installed the old fix and now when I try to install this one I get the message 'Access Denied'!

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Quote from ydfah:

Assuming you are logged in to Windows with an administrator account... the 'Access Denied' appears when a file (or files) is in use when you attempt to replace it. QT can not be running when you try and update the files. If it is, exit QT and try again. If that doesn't work, reboot the computer, then try updating the files.

If you are not logged into Windows with an administrator account, log out and then log back into the administrator account, then try updating the files.

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Thank you ydfah...

im still having the same access denied issue.... im using windows vista...just wondering if that maybe part of the problem

Bout to throw comp out of the window...

Ydfah thanks so much for your help on this. I emailed ameritrade and heard nothing and then luckily remembered this board. What kind of outfit is that especially since I pay them a boatload in commissions each year

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Quote from johnk49:
I've done all that thanks,still not working.

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Quote from jonisux:
I'm using windows vista...just wondering if that maybe part of the problem

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QT Fix of April 2012

Thanks ydfah and jerry and everyone who helped with the most recent fix.

how many times can you patch this thing before you realize you really need a modern supported app?

might be wise to start working toward one now?

Thanks . . !!!

Thanks for all the great support on this forum . . patch worked perfectly on TD Ameritrade.

thanks ydfah. patch is working great.

Who is the mystery person writing these patches for QT?

qtfix file access denied

I am using Vista and this worked for me.
Right click on the qtfix file and and select properties.
Then click on the security tab. Click on Edit (to change permissions click edit). Then check "allow" for all user names.

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Quote from high99:

Who is the mystery person writing these patches for QT?

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Ok. Just forget I asked. I have been a user since the beginning of time, and I suppose there must be many others as well. I've looked at other charting programs, however why change. Hopefully this situation will resolve itself in time with somebody either taking over from TD, or simply create a clone. Either way, I can maneuver through this program blindfolded, and it works perfect for me. Candles turn green I buy, red I sell. Easy. Boring.

Here's one more report of success with the new patch...both IB and TDAmeritrade backfills working again. And with the bonus that market holidays are updated to beginning of next year.

Good job, mystery person!

If TD really cared about its users , they wouldn't let their level 2 lag for months.

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Looks like it is not on the ftp site anymore, can someone post it here?

Edit: Found it! Thanks to everyone on this thread for keeping this great product going, like others I have my charts tweaked just the way I want and hate the thought of having to move to something else.

Thanks!

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Quote from ydfah:

For those that can not access the iqfeed ftp site for any reason, you can get the backfill fix here:
http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/77716919/file.html

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Quote from gregiii:

Got this from IQfeed support just now:

ftp://www.dtniq.com/iqfeed/qtfix.zip

seems only stock.exe is updated.

Replaced mine stocks.exe with this new one only.

So far so good. Backfill ok now.

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Quote from j_medved:

If that happens, EliteTrader would be the first to know

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quotetracker backfill...

i loaded this latest iq patch, told it even works for tda, but my backfill still doesn't work. quotes do, not backfill. any ideas?

installing a "patch" from unknown source is wise? just asking

Re: quotetracker backfill...

in QuoteTracker, select "HELP/About QuoteTracker" menu. What version is shown on there?

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Quote from lipluradon:

i loaded this latest iq patch, told it even works for tda, but my backfill still doesn't work. quotes do, not backfill. any ideas?

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Quote from stock777:

If TD really cared about its users , they wouldn't let their level 2 lag for months.

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my version...

is 3.9.8

that means you do NOT have the latest patch. Latest patch would show 3.9.8a. Get the patch from the URL posted previously (http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/77716919/file.html ) and update again. Make sure the STOCKS.EXE file gets updated

I downloaded the zippy website file to my windows 7 computer.
I extracted the files into my quotetracker directory.
Now, the only thing that works are the dj nasq, and s&p quote tickers.
My watchlist is stuck i.e. not receiving the streaming quotes.

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Quote from j_medved:

that means you do NOT have the latest patch. Latest patch would show 3.9.8a. Get the patch from the URL posted previously (http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/77716919/file.html ) and update again. Make sure the STOCKS.EXE file gets updated

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Quote from high99:

..... Candles turn green I buy, red I sell. Easy. Boring.

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l12, I just answer a question here and there if I have the time.

For reference, there are more posts about a QT patch in this thread:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...threadid=239759

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Quote from l12:

Thanks for this Mr. Medved. I'm an IB user and just this week the backfill stopped working, and this fixed it.

So what is the deal now, TD bought your program and killed it and you are going to keep updating it out of generosity?

Or they are just too lazy to update the website?

Sorry if the answer is provided here but I don't have time to read 79 pages of this thread, if anyone can point me to it, I appreciate it.

I've been using QT for almost a decade and will be very sad to have to switch.

Thanks

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I'm using 3.9.8 and it works just fine. But then I don't backfill. Just keep the computer running all week 24/7 Looks like the latest patch was uploaded - drumroll please ................................ Monday !

mr. medved...

this is the best charting program i've ever used. don't know why they're doing away with it, but i hope to keep using it. downloaded your link, right clicked on it, "extract all", next, ..., then browsed down to the path by first opening my computer, then local disk (c, then program files, then clicking on quotetracker which opens up the folder showing backups and cache, but i didn't click on those. once quotetracker's highlighted i then clicked okay and it gave me the path, C:\Program Files\QuoteTracker. then i clicked next, then yes to all for confirm file replace for the file stocks.exe, then finish. i assume i did this correctly, but please let me know.

[QUOTE]Quote from Landis82:

[B]Dude, where have you been???



I was referring not the the usual minor lag, but the extra special, ream job lag of up to 20 seconds they stuck in there for your trading enjoyment.

Talking to their tech support is an exercise in self abuse.

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actually...

actually i think it's working now, thanks very much to everyone. sir jerry, if you ever get to sell a version after your non compete clause, let me know, i'll buy it

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Quote from j_medved:

l12, I just answer a question here and there if I have the time.

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what part of it's finished is not getting thru?

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Quote from j_medved:

that means you do NOT have the latest patch. Latest patch would show 3.9.8a. Get the patch from the URL posted previously (http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/77716919/file.html ) and update again. Make sure the STOCKS.EXE file gets updated

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highballs

it's a standalone product, as long as we can get data to it, the company might be finished but the product isn't

ydfah...

ydfah, i understand that it's really a stand alone software program, and as long as we can get data to it from one of the other providers, it will continue to work even though the company may be gone, is that correct?

Re: ydfah...

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Quote from lipluradon:

it's really a stand alone software program, and as long as we can get data to it from one of the other providers, it will continue to work

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ydfah

ydfah is there anyway to write code for it that might allow for streaming data from something inexpensive like yahoo or some other readily available source? and why all of the sudden did this quit. i got an email back from harrison at qt saying they were working on the problem which i didn't understand. i thought they or tda caused it.

Re: ydfah

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Quote from lipluradon:

ydfah is there anyway to write code for it that might allow for streaming data from something inexpensive like yahoo

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ydfah

ydfah, how does it work with interactive? i suppose you have to have an account with them and subscribe to data. will this patch allow it to work with them?

Re: ydfah

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Quote from lipluradon:

ydfah, how does it work with interactive? i suppose you have to have an account with them and subscribe to data. will this patch allow it to work with them?

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TDA backfill patch

I got a patch from TDA: qtfix.zip, compressed (zipped) Folders.
I clicked extract all files with destination as C:/program files/Quotetracker. But it tells me: "Compressed (zipped) Folders was unable to create the specified directory. Ensure that the directory does doe already exist, and that the path entered is valid".
Must I first remove another directory, I am not getting the option to overwrite it, and how do I remove it. What steps do I do now to install the patch.

Backfill fix

Someone should set up a way so we could pay the man that fixed this for us so he will be there the next time we need him.
We could all kick in a five or ten for saving the day.

Re: TDA backfill patch

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Quote from reid5525:

But it tells me: "Compressed (zipped) Folders was unable to create the specified directory.

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Re: Re: TDA backfill patch

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Quote from ydfah:

Create a temporary folder to extract the qtfix.zip files into. Once they are all extracted copy them from the temporary folder to the QuoteTracker folder. Also, make sure that QT is not running when you copy the files.

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Re: Backfill fix

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Quote from JLhut:

Someone should set up a way so we could pay the man that fixed this for us so he will be there the next time we need him.
We could all kick in a five or ten for saving the day.

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Re: Re: Backfill fix

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Quote from high99:Step back and read between the lines. The story then becomes clearer.

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Re: Re: Re: TDA backfill patch

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Quote from reid5525:what are the steps to create a temporary folder.

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Re: Re: Re: Backfill fix

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Quote from ydfah:

You make it sound like you know something we don't. Care to share?

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Backfill fix

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Quote from high99:

Who has been hanging around this message board these last few years giving advise? Who created the patch? Who probably got a boatload of cash, yet still seems involved and cares about users of the product? Need I say more?

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Backfill fix

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Quote from high99:

Who has been hanging around this message board these last few years giving advise? Who created the patch? Who probably got a boatload of cash, yet still seems involved and cares about users of the product? Need I say more?

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Don't worry about who and why, just be grateful.

I suspect rewriting QT would be a massive undertaking, though with modern development tools it could be done by a few dedicated programmers.

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Re: actually...

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Quote from lipluradon:

actually i think it's working now, thanks very much to everyone. sir jerry, if you ever get to sell a version after your non compete clause, let me know, i'll buy it

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Re: Backfill fix

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Quote from JLhut:

Someone should set up a way so we could pay the man that fixed this for us so he will be there the next time we need him.
We could all kick in a five or ten for saving the day.

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Re: ydfah

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Quote from lipluradon:

ydfah is there anyway to write code for it that might allow for streaming data from something inexpensive like yahoo or some other readily available source? and why all of the sudden did this quit. i got an email back from harrison at qt saying they were working on the problem which i didn't understand. i thought they or tda caused it.

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The future without QT

Thanks to those that helped with the latest backfill patch. I got it to work with TDA's feed/backfill.

Every day I wake up, turn on my computer and cross my fingers that QT will still work for me. I am surprised it still is given the info out there. It seems they keep delaying shutting it down.

I have been trying to ignore the inevitable...life without QT. Not to beat a dead horse, but has anyone come up with a decent solution to use once QT is no more?

I have been testing multiple platforms and have not found one that I am comfortable with yet. Nothing compares to QT, but we are going to have to settle with something.

Thanks for the help. It's nice to know so many people are going through the same thing.

david63

still not working for me

...others?

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Tried the patch but my error coming up is "One or more of the files required for this program to function is missing (REKLAMA.PAR, ZANUDA.PAR)."

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

If someone needs payment to keep this program working, my checkbook is open.

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Quote from reiehaxm:

Tried the patch but my error coming up is "One or more of the files required for this program to function is missing (REKLAMA.PAR, ZANUDA.PAR)."

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Thanks Jerry.

I just placed a backup file (zip) on my desktop and erased everything with QT on my computer. Downloaded a fresh copy and installed it. Then replaced the stocks file (the QT logo with the dollar sign) with the one in the qtfix unzipped file.

It now says QT version 3.9.8a on startup. I then restored my my backup from my desktop and it looks great. Took a while to backfill my symbols on the initial run but all is good.

Thanks also to whoever supplied this fix.

Who do I call at TD to find out a price for this old outdated program that nobody wants or uses?

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Quote from Catoosa:

While I think that is speculation, I am sure it will take someone not under a non-compete contract to write/own a new program that will meet the needs of current QT users as well as future users that subscribe to the new program. We can hope for a solution in the future.

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Quote from stock777:

I was referring not the the usual minor lag, but the extra special, ream job lag of up to 20 seconds they stuck in there for your trading enjoyment.

Talking to their tech support is an exercise in self abuse.

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Playing it Safe...

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Quote from highballs:

installing a "patch" from unknown source is wise? just asking

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jerry....

the only thing i ask jerry, is that if some how a new and separate version of qt ever becomes available, that it include more data beyond 20 days intraday data. i, many times, need to use a 200 sma and that's not possible with less than almost 30 days of data. and another thing, give us the option as to when we start the first hour. i'd rather my first hour be 9 to 10, not 9:30 to 10:30 with the last hour being only a half hour. most of the traders in the room i use have theirs setup as the former, and sometimes the pattern will look completley different on, say and hourly chart. just a couple of thoughts. it'd be also nice to insure the product by having even more sources of data, hopefully many that are cheap. love the product. charts are crisp and clear. appreciate greatly the help on the patch, too.

sorry, meant

200 sma on the hourly chart, that needs about thirty days data to have it draw.

Re: Playing it Safe...

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Quote from paranoidone:

Since I'm new here and don't recognize anyone posting in this thread, I trust I'm not insulting anyone by asking for a convincing argument that it is safe to run this program, patched by an unknown entity, thereby entrusting my life savings at my quote source to the good will of that entity...

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Since this thread is now up to 86 pages, that should tell you something about the patch being safe or not. Have you seen any posts complaining how they lost their life savings because the patch short circuited their computer and sold all of their holdings for zero?
There are other threads regarding QT as well over the past year. Read up. Then make your decision.

Re: sorry, meant

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Quote from lipluradon:

200 sma on the hourly chart, that needs about thirty days data to have it draw.

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Re: Playing it Safe...

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Quote from paranoidone:

Well, I just downloaded the qtfix.zip file from zippyshare and extracted it to my \Program Files\Quotetracker directory. However, I haven't yet tried to run it. I guess I'm just not as trusting as many of you here.

Since I'm new here and don't recognize anyone posting in this thread, I trust I'm not insulting anyone by asking for a convincing argument that it is safe to run this program, patched by an unknown entity, thereby entrusting my life savings at my quote source to the good will of that entity...

Thanks,
Paranoid One

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Re: Re: sorry, meant

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Quote from j_medved:

If we ever do another QT like app, I am sure we will make it support more than 20 days on intraday. Meanwhile, note that the patch makes it so you can have up to 60 days on intraday charts. (that was lost way way back in the early pages)

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jerry...

well, thanks jerry, however i went and changed my " maximum days on chart" and even the " consolidate chart after " to 60 days, but it's still only showing 20 days. clicked okay, it even says 60 even after i tried restarting the program, too. any ideas?

Re: jerry...

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Quote from lipluradon:

well, thanks jerry, however i went and changed my " maximum days on chart" and even the " consolidate chart after " to 60 days, but it's still only showing 20 days. clicked okay, it even says 60 even after i tried restarting the program, too. any ideas?

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After being thru all the blowares like TOS and NinjaTrader, I still like the simplicity of QuoteTracker. But my QT stops working on TDA quotes for a little while. It keep complaining about the login/password which I had no problem logging in with IE8.

( My current version is 3.9.8a, it works fine with IB but can only download 10 days' data).

When testing with the https://apis.tdameritrade.com/ link on IE8, it says HTTP 500 Internal Server Error.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Quote from jeb008A:

After being thru all the blowares like TOS and NinjaTrader, I still like the simplicity of QuoteTracker. But my QT stops working on TDA quotes for a little while. It keep complaining about the login/password which I had no problem logging in with IE8.

( My current version is 3.9.8a, it works fine with IB but can only download 10 days' data).

When testing with the https://apis.tdameritrade.com/ link on IE8, it says HTTP 500 Internal Server Error.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Re: Re: Playing it Safe...

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Quote from ydfah:

So don't install it. It makes no difference to us if your backfill doesn't work.

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Quote from jeb008A:

After being thru all the blowares like TOS and NinjaTrader, I still like the simplicity of QuoteTracker. But my QT stops working on TDA quotes for a little while. It keep complaining about the login/password which I had no problem logging in with IE8.

( My current version is 3.9.8a, it works fine with IB but can only download 10 days' data).

When testing with the https://apis.tdameritrade.com/ link on IE8, it says HTTP 500 Internal Server Error.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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jerry...

jerry, tried that, first clear all data, then backfill, still doesn't work. closed the program and reopened a couple of times and then clear and backfill, too. really i'm just glad the program's working again. thanks again for the help with the patch. would love to have that 200sma on my hourly chart, so if you can think of anything it might be, let me know.

In response to my concerns about the dangers of running unofficially patched programs, Catoosa said: "There are many QT long time user who are now using this patch. The patch has solved your backfill quote problem so open the QT program and see. I have used this and two previous patches during the past year to keep my QT program going and the patches have all worked."

I trusted my accounts and other information to Quotetracker.com for years. I thought my initial note that I had no intention to insult anyone here was sufficient. I suspect that those of you who feel compelled to be sarcastic with me have little or no experience as a Systems Analyst/Programmer of code like QT, and consequently can't conceive of how simple it would be to capture username/password pairs and IM them anywhere. I think this is very unlikely but who will you sue if someone logs in to your account 6 months from now and does damage?

Re: jerry...

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Quote from lipluradon:

jerry, tried that, first clear all data, then backfill, still doesn't work. closed the program and reopened a couple of times and then clear and backfill, too. really i'm just glad the program's working again. thanks again for the help with the patch. would love to have that 200sma on my hourly chart, so if you can think of anything it might be, let me know.

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david63

david63 i think you're being a little paranoid. the guy doesn't want to answer the question, he doesn't have to answer it. he says he's now got 60 days intraday with this patch. i've made what i think are the correct changes and it still only brings up 20. i'm not gonna spend anymore time on it, but i don't think there's anything you can help with.

Re: david63

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Quote from lipluradon:

david63 i think you're being a little paranoid. the guy doesn't want to answer the question, he doesn't have to answer it. he says he's now got 60 days intraday with this patch. i've made what i think are the correct changes and it still only brings up 20. i'm not gonna spend anymore time on it, but i don't think there's anything you can help with.

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I also had the problem when I first added the patch, only had 20 or so days on my intraday charts. The real problem was IB which limits the amount of backfill, so I couldn't just fill in the 60 slots I now had available. I had to accumulate data, without clearing it, and now I have 60 days on my intraday charts. Voila!

baro-san

boro-san, no, sorry, not removing my post, how the hell was i supposed to know that. we'll see if it does accumulate, but i'm told that tda doesn't restrict it to 20 intradays, in fact, tos has way more than that and i believe, of course, it's the same data.

also..

on top of that, it sounds like maybe one has to have each specific symbol up in order to accumulate that particular one's data to greater than 20 days. great if you trade the same stock only, but not so if you're constantly switching out symbols, if that's how it works.

Re: david63

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Quote from lipluradon:

david63 i think you're being a little paranoid. the guy doesn't want to answer the question, he doesn't have to answer it. he says he's now got 60 days intraday with this patch. i've made what i think are the correct changes and it still only brings up 20. i'm not gonna spend anymore time on it, but i don't think there's anything you can help with.

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lipluradon... check your private messages here.

QT patch

J Medved thanks for patch and some great software

QT Level 2

Hello,

anyone know why level 2 is greyed out?

THX

David

Re: QT Level 2

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Quote from david63:

anyone know why level 2 is greyed out?

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Re: Re: QT Level 2

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Quote from j_medved:

select a symbol in the portfolio first.

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Windows 7 64-bit

Any issues with QT running on a Windows 7 64-bit system? Going to do a clean install in the coming weeks. Currently fine with xp-pro but would like to update the OS.

Thanks for any info you can share.

Re: Windows 7 64-bit

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Quote from reiehaxm:

Any issues with QT running on a Windows 7 64-bit system.

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Last week I was inquiering with QT technical support about backfilling issue and that's what I got back (it took them 1 week). Hope this will, at some point, open the door to Jerry to take QT back under his wings.

"QT is in the beginning of the draw-down process. Too early to have very much info available. A business decision has been made to cease support and maintenance of QT, so we are trying to integrate as many features as we can in to ThinkOrSwim from TD Ameritrade before that happens. When the drawdown is complete, QT will no longer be supported or maintained. In the meantime, we recommend trying out ThinkOrSwim. If you need any assistance with it or a walkthrough, just let us know and we'll see if we can get someone at TD Ameritrade to give you a call. For that, you would need a TD Ameritrade account, so if you have one, let us know the account number or userid (please do NOT send us any info other than that like password), a good phone number, day and time to call, and the timezone you're in."

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Quote from marcus1ca:Hope this will, at some point, open the door to Jerry to take QT back under his wings.

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Thank you Jerry for this update. I would have been real hard going without the holidays being updated too.

I can't believe that the best program for trading is being killed by TDA. There is nothing that comes close to its refinement and they want to destroy it. It will be an impossible PR situation for them if they do.

What planet are they on thinking that TOS would even be viable for anyone used to using QT ? Who do they have there coming up with the most destructive decision they could make for their customers...

There must be a means of keeping this precious piece of software going and improving on it. There must.. !

@ Marcus1

I've received the same boilerplate message when I've written to Harrison at QT as well.

I've spent an hour or two on the phone speaking with the tech support people at TDA a couple of times.

What a mess they are digging themselves in. Do any of these guys there trade equities? I'm thinking their higher profits must be generated by options arbitrage, and the more muddled they make TOS the more they think they can encourage options trading etc.

There is nothing in TOS that makes a close comparision to QT when it comes to the type of trading we need to be set up for and see instantly. It's just nuts.

The problem is also that the tech support people seem to believe that TOS will someday satisfy all traders needs and it has nothing to do with anything we need now.

How they can be so lacking in objectiveness in this is beyond me but speaks too much to me as a customer that they are basically out of touch with trading in the tradtional sense.

Something must give here, they can not kill this program because there is nothing they can change with TOS unless they build another QT from the ground up.

If TDA decides to no longer support QT... what exactly does that mean to current users? I could live without future updates so long as I can keep the current functionality.
It's a desktop application and from what I can tell (and I'm no programmer) they only thing that might cease to function are the feeds. Heck, I'd even use the ad-supported model over TOS.
I'm sure a patch (like the one used to fix the backfill issue) could be created to bypass any TDA issues once they bring QT down. Right?

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If TDA decides to no longer support QT... what exactly does that mean to current users? I could live without future updates so long as I can keep the current functionality.
It's a desktop application and from what I can tell (and I'm no programmer) they only thing that might cease to function are the feeds. Heck, I'd even use the ad-supported model over TOS.
I'm sure a patch (like the one used to fix the backfill issue) could be created to bypass any TDA issues once they bring QT down. Right?

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If someone hadn't provided the update with the holidays I believe the indicators that we use would have shown faulty feedback.

There is a lot to keep maintenace for this kind of coding, but thankfully somebody loves this software as much as the rest of us users.

There is no way TOS is even going to come anywhere near providing the immediate feedback and capability that this program does in any sense. It is a monstrosity already.....

And who cares if it was written in Delphi or not.

Half the airtraffic control software in Heathrow etc is still in fortran and it's not going into mothballs anytime soon.

There are plenty of Delphi programmers out there and there are ways of upgrading the language as they do for big control centers.

@edo870 - the patch already bypasses TDA servers for registration, disables web update, auto registers, and increases max # of days on charts to 60. That was in the first one posted.

@tomi01 - note that you can edit the holidays yourself on the OPTIONS/Edit Preferences menu, CHARTS tab, Multiday Timeframes sub-tab... Select the timeframe, then hit the Market Holidays Button. Or, you can just edit the TFHOLIDAYS.XML file with a text editor

Thank You!
This is just what traders need as ALWAYS,
Love U and your software

Thanks Jerry... seems like regardless of what TDA does we can continue to use QT. A huge relief. Thank you again!!!!

Anyone knows what to enter for IB Client# when using QT. I am not seeing it in the instructions.

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Anyone knows what to enter for IB Client# when using QT. I am not seeing it in the instructions.

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Leave it as zero unless you are using other 3rd party apps like NinjaTrader. Otherwise, pick a random positive #. Like 21

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Thanks Jerry.
DTN sent me a qtfix.zip patch.
I downloaded the patch to my desktop, opened it (23 items), and clicked on Extract all files.
It said files will be extracted to C:\Users\Reid62\Desktop\qtfix
When I clicked extract it said "Windows found that this file is potentally harmful", and that windows has blocked access to the file.
How do I get the fix installed.

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Quote from j_medved:

Create a temp folder..
Open the zip file.
Select all files inside it.
Drag them from the zip to the temp folder

Then open the QT folder
Select all files in temp folder
Drag them to QT folder
Select to overwrite all files when prompted

This is a common issue on Vista/Win 7

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Jerry... when I draw a trendline now and right click to convert to a fibonacci ext. it does not extend to the right. However, if I click on shapes>fibonacci it does extend. Any clue why this happens?
I went into the Misc. tab and checked to see if the trendlines are extended to the right and they are.
Any help would be great. Thanks.

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Quote from edo870:

Jerry... when I draw a trendline now and right click to convert to a fibonacci ext. it does not extend to the right. However, if I click on shapes>fibonacci it does extend. Any clue why this happens?
I went into the Misc. tab and checked to see if the trendlines are extended to the right and they are.
Any help would be great. Thanks.

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don't know. Undocumented feature.

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Anyone know or use E-trade or Schwab as quote source for QT. I am thinking about open an account at one of them. Want to know if these source still work or how well they work. thanks

E*Trade works as of today. No idea about Schwab. However QT integrates with Schwab by reading the HTML pages (not streaming). If Schwab redesigns their web pages, QT will stop working. Such snapshot quote integration is more likely to get messed up then when QT connects to streaming datafeeds.

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Quote from j_medved:

E*Trade works as of today. No idea about Schwab. However QT integrates with Schwab by reading the HTML pages (not streaming). If Schwab redesigns their web pages, QT will stop working. Such snapshot quote integration is more likely to get messed up then when QT connects to streaming datafeeds.

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Scottrade doesn't work anymore if I remember correctly. As for Firstrade, no idea

Volume..

Hello,

i was just wonderin if someone know if this come from the data provider or not and eventually how to fix it...

On some stocks (but not all) the avg volume showed is 1 or 2 (see attached picture highlighted in red)

Any Idea???

THX David

Avg Volume - depends on the datafeed. Stockwatch does not provide it, so QT gets it from the fundamental data. Seems that fund data servers don't have avg volume info for these symbols. Not much you can do there.

Just downloaded the fix

I just found this site, went through the forum, found the fix for QT and HAPPY DAYS are back !!!!!!!!!

Here's the file http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/77716919/file.html



Live long QT, the best charts out there.

I also let thinky or stinky (tos) what I thought of their charts.

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Avg Volume - depends on the datafeed. Stockwatch does not provide it, so QT gets it from the fundamental data. Seems that fund data servers don't have avg volume info for these symbols. Not much you can do there.

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News feed

Hi Jerry,

i just realized that in the switch from the old ver and the patched one i lost something...the yahoo files...and mainly the one for the news.

Do u have them? if Yes can u pls post it to me?

Many THX

David

here is the news file

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here is the news file

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Anyone know how to load IB data for expired contracts on to QT? This is possible with NT7, and wondering if it's possible in QT. Thanks.

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Engineering profitable positions in the markets.

THANKS AND TIP

I want to thank Jerry and all the other on this thread for tipping me on how to solve the backfill issue, and installing correctly the patch. i was desperate and now it works like a charm. just like a charm!!

QT is the top, and I have used it for 10 years. i am simply blind without it. i cannot function. so this is a big day for me. truly.

to give something back...are you guys aware that chartpattern.com created a little fantastic program that flips charts automatically? it is superlative, and you can give your specifications.

if you are interested let me know and i will send you the link.

cheers,
elementare

obviously the program is for QT.

Dividends not showing on QT

Now I cannot get historic charts to show dividends.
On the charts I have previoulsy opened the dividend dates
are shown but disappear when I use "clear chart data".

I have used the patch and the version shows 3.9.8a.
I am using the tda streamer and Yahoo as backfill.
Any one else having this problem?

Make sure your historical data source is "Bigcharts Historical"

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Quote from terr:

Make sure your historical data source is "Bigcharts Historical"

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QuoteTracker with IB

Just put a fresh copy of win 7-64 bit on computer. Installed latest TWS from IB (924.3a). Now I get 3 pop-ups when loading QT (3.9.8a). 1) User Account Control - "do you want to allow the following program from an unknown publisher (stocks.exe) to make changes to your computer?" 2) Quotetracker Custom Browser "Quotetracker Registration Requirement" 3) QuoteTracker - Registration Required "Quotetracker must be registered in order to use Interactive Brokers for market data"

I have a TD account that links up and delivers the quotes just fine. It will not let me get quotes from IB. I went to the global config in TWS and enabled ActiveX and put in the trusted IP address (127.0.0.1) and the socket port is 7496. Everytime I hit the "start button I get the latter two pop-ups above.

I have BracketTrader that hooks up to IB fine. The new TWS is alot different than what I was using.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

1) just say yes

2 and 3 - you did not apply all the files from the patch. Close QT and copy the files from the patch again

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Quote from j_medved:

1) just say yes

2 and 3 - you did not apply all the files from the patch. Close QT and copy the files from the patch again

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question for Jerry

Jerry,

can TD stop us from using qt once we have it downloaded, by closing the server? I mean , am I independent with my QT or could i still be deprived of it by action from the owner??

thanks for your reply.

elementare

No chart data:

Beginning about a week ago, the intraday QT charts began displaying bad data; perhaps 2 bars total of data on a 30-minute chart, for an entire day, for each of the past 20 days. Intraday backfill (TDA) doesn't seem to fix the problem, either. I uninstalled QT and deleted the QT folder, then downloaded again to see if it would resolve the matter, but it did not. RT data is TDA. I don't know what happened.

If someone has a suggestion as to what to try I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

you have to download the patch and follow jerry instruction posted a few messages up in this thread. if you have problem holler...

Re: No chart data:

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Beginning about a week ago, the intraday QT charts began displaying bad data;

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Thank you Elementare, that solved the issue. Ydfah, the spike filter was/is set to 30.

As a long time QT user I've never seen anything like this happen before; I didn't alter anything, and just one day it began acting up.

Thanks again.

Here we go again...

Apparently the data feed from Interactive Brokers has changed again with the release of the latest TWS version. Volume is not being picked up by QT. Is anyone working on a new patch?

Re: Here we go again...

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Apparently the data feed from Interactive Brokers has changed again with the release of the latest TWS version. Volume is not being picked up by QT. Is anyone working on a new patch?

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Re: Here we go again...

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Quote from OVT:

Apparently the data feed from Interactive Brokers has changed again with the release of the latest TWS version. Volume is not being picked up by QT. Is anyone working on a new patch?

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what specific symbols have the problem?

Her we go again...continued.

Hi Jerry,

I'm not sure what you're asking. I don't see "cumulative volume" as an option for TWS configuration fields. I don't know if this helps, but, the release notes for the latest version of TWS state the following:

"Change Format for Volume

Volume display has been changed to include three significant digits plus a letter for volumes greater than or equal to 1000. For example, a volume of 1970 would display as 1.97K; 828000 would display as 828K, 444,000,000 would be 444M. This format applies to volume in TWS and in mobileTWS applications."

Note that I'm not running the latest version of TWS (25). I'm running TWS version 918.9b, but the same thing seems to happen in TWS version 25.

If you bring up the raw data panel in QT, it used to update trade by trade (for futures contracts, don't know about stocks), but since the release of TWS 25 QT's raw data only updates with periodic large blocks. The strange thing is that the individual trades do show up in real time in TWS's Book Trader panels as well as TWS's time and sales window, but not in the volume for TWS charts. There are also other problems in TWS e.g., Book Trader shows the high and low of the day inaccurately for periods of time, that is, it will show the low of the day as being above the current level of trading and then, when the next volume block "prints" the correct low will show in Book Trader. It seems that IB has not thought things through before implementing the change.

I'm afraid that I am not sufficiently computer literate to figure this one out on my own, but I hope this additional information helps.

ES, YM, NQ, 6E, 6B, ZW, ZC and ZS - everything that I trade.

@OVT 0 I just ran TWS (with demo login) and all volumes show up OK in QT. Does the volume update OK on the quote screen?

it sounds like you have the raw data window set to filter block trades. Turn off that filtering

Her we go again...continued.

Hi Jerry,

I don't have the block filter on the Raw Data window in QT, just the trades only filter. If I turn off the trades only filter, it doesn't make any difference, it still only updates with the blocks of volume from TWS.

And on the quote screens in both TWS and QT the individual trades are not updating volume, once again, only the blocks of volume.

Since both you and reiehaxm are not having this problem, I'm going to try downloading a clean copy of the most recent version of TWS and see if this solves my problem.

I'll post an update after I have a chance to do the new download.

Thanks to you and to reiehaxm for your help.

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What is your spike filter set to?The default is 30.

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Same problem here.

This has happened twice before during 2010-2011 period.
Both times an IB problem.

Her we go again...problem solved?

Hi Jerry,

Downloaded and installed TWS version 924.3a (guessing this was the version cited by reiehaxm at 4-16-12 03:52 pm, thanks reiehaxm) and now all the block volume issues are resolved.

Don't know what happened over the weekend to foul up TWS 918.9b, but it doesn't matter as long as I'm back in business.

Sorry to have taken your time, but I appreciate your support. Once again you've proven that you are without peers.

Thanks again for your help.

qt officially dead Jun 1, 2012

I was having issues with back-fill and contacted qt support @ TD.
They said:

"QT is currently in the process of being drawn down. The tentative date for this is June 15th, 2012. A business decision has been made to cease support and maintenance of QT, so we are trying to integrate as many features as we can in to ThinkOrSwim from TD Ameritrade before that happens. "

Oh, they were nice enough to give me a patch to get it working again, but after using QT for many years, I am not happy...

...and I am a TD client... and do NOT like TOS or their other platforms...

Probably going to IB...

that's the message that started this thread (check out the first post in this thread). They have been giving this reply for about 16 months.

Amazing how many people despise TOS despite the thousands of man hours that went in its creation before and after the sale of the co.

It theoretically is much more powerful but its not 'fun' to use. Something clumsy about it.

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"Those that know ain't saying, and those saying don't know." - E. A. Neumann

A bear since 1958 and proud of it.

I contacted QT support yesterday because the Advanced Screener is not updating. I received the following reply.......

The Advanced Screener will no longer function in QuoteTracker as of April 27th, 2012. The program that feature is ported from, Advanced Analyzer, will be drawn down on that date and the functionality will be made available in TD Ameritrade's Trade Architect platform. Also note that QuoteTracker is in the process of being drawn down. See the below for more information on the QuoteTracker drawdown:

QT is currently in the process of being drawn down. The tentative date for this is June 15th, 2012. A business decision has been made to cease support and maintenance of QT, so we are trying to integrate as many features as we can in to ThinkOrSwim from TD Ameritrade before that happens. When the drawdown is complete, QT will no longer be supported or maintained. In the meantime, we recommend trying out ThinkOrSwim. If you need any assistance with it or a walkthrough, just let us know and we'll see if we can get someone at TD Ameritrade to give you a call. For that, you would need a TD Ameritrade account, so if you have one, let us know the account number or userid (please do NOT send us any info other than that like password), a good phone number, day and time to call, and the timezone you're in.

Sincerely,
Harrison

Re: qt officially dead Jun 1, 2012

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I was having issues with back-fill and contacted qt support @ TD.
They said:

"QT is currently in the process of being drawn down. The tentative date for this is June 15th, 2012. A business decision has been made to cease support and maintenance of QT, so we are trying to integrate as many features as we can in to ThinkOrSwim from TD Ameritrade before that happens. "

Oh, they were nice enough to give me a patch to get it working again, but after using QT for many years, I am not happy...

...and I am a TD client... and do NOT like TOS or their other platforms...

Probably going to IB...

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