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Posted by nitro on 09-08-08 05:47 AM:

Desperately seeking SUSY

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) comes online on Wednesday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9XotvwgnaY

There are many hopes about what we may find by recreating for a fraction of an instant energies only seen at the moment of creation itself.

http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/08/0...l-the-lhc-find/

Notice that the link above gives finding GOD at the LHC experiments a probability of : 10^-20%.

My hope is that we see SuperSymmetry, otherwise known as SUSY:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersymmetry

People entartain themselves with popular science on tv, and it is easy to grasp for example the excitement of finding life on Mars, etc. But I consider it 10x more interesting to find that the Universe was created with SUSY.

nitro

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Posted by ilikefox es on 09-09-08 07:10 PM:

Re: Desperately seeking SUSY

Quote from nitro:

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) comes online on Wednesday.

http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/08/0...l-the-lhc-find/

Notice that the link above gives finding GOD at the LHC experiments a probability of : 10^-20%.

nitro

Well, how would they find a spirit with these physical tools.

A much more relevant question is what is the probability of this project discovering what caused the first material act of creation.

Posted by nitro on 09-09-08 08:05 PM:

Re: Re: Desperately seeking SUSY

Quote from ilikefox es:

Well, how would they find a spirit with these physical tools.

A much more relevant question is what is the probability of this project discovering what caused the first material act of creation.

In a similar way that if you saw tracks in snow, you would infer an animal made them.

It is unfortunate that Ledderman dubbed the Higgs boson the God particle. In fact, it is far deeper than just the Higgs how matter acquires mass. The best explanation of this for the amateur is in the book I posted at the top of this page in my other thread:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...g&pagenumber=30

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Posted by Wayne Gibbous on 09-09-08 08:21 PM:

Unfortunately the power of this device will cause a tear into the next dimension and let in all manner of strange and deadly creatures.

Or maybe that is just a Steven King story...

Posted by ilikefox es on 09-10-08 04:04 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Desperately seeking SUSY

Quote from nitro:

In a similar way that if you saw tracks in snow, you would infer an animal made them.

nitro

So after trashing intelligent design for these lo years, the scientists are going to do their own intelligent design experiment?

Interesting, I guess, but Richard Dawkins already gave away the predetermined answer to the question.

Posted by killthesunshine on 09-10-08 04:11 PM:

Quote from Wayne Gibbous:

Unfortunately the power of this device will cause a tear into the next dimension and let in all manner of strange and deadly creatures.

Or maybe that is just a Steven King story...

they are opening a Pandora's box.
a can of worms!
there will be HELL to pay!!

let things be.
treat it like a sore dick, don't FUCK with it !

Posted by nitro on 09-10-08 04:15 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Desperately seeking SUSY

Quote from ilikefox es:

So after trashing intelligent design for these lo years, the scientists are going to do their own intelligent design experiment?

Interesting, I guess, but Richard Dawkins already gave away the predetermined answer to the question.

Huh?

These people are doing science. The reference to God was for the public's sake, not as some unstated goal of the LHC.

Like I said, Ledderman probably wishes he could take back calling the Higgs boson the God particle.

nitro

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Posted by killthesunshine on 09-10-08 04:20 PM:

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Quote from nitro:

Huh?

These people are doing science. The reference to God was for the public's sake, not as some unstated goal of the LHC.

Like I said, Ledderman probably wishes he could take back calling the Higgs boson the God particle.

nitro

GOD wants those atoms to remain intact.

DO NOT BREAK God's atoms!!

Posted by nitro on 09-14-08 01:51 AM:

Greek hackers break into LHC computers:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...s-13972831.html

nitro

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Posted by TraderZones on 09-14-08 04:55 AM:

Quote from Wayne Gibbous:

Unfortunately the power of this device will cause a tear into the next dimension and let in all manner of strange and deadly creatures.

Or maybe that is just a Steven King story...

Isn't that how Hellboy got started???

Posted by jonbig04 on 09-14-08 06:42 AM:

Re: Desperately seeking SUSY

Quote from nitro:

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) comes online on Wednesday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9XotvwgnaY

There are many hopes about what we may find by recreating for a fraction of an instant energies only seen at the moment of creation itself.

http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/08/0...l-the-lhc-find/

Notice that the link above gives finding GOD at the LHC experiments a probability of : 10^-20%.

My hope is that we see SuperSymmetry, otherwise known as SUSY:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersymmetry

People entartain themselves with popular science on tv, and it is easy to grasp for example the excitement of finding life on Mars, etc. But I consider it 10x more interesting to find that the Universe was created with SUSY.

nitro

Wow thats the biggest religious experiment i've ever seen.

Interesting stuff though.

Posted by nitro on 02-16-09 02:39 AM:

Yisel Martinez, a Cuban atomic physicist that worked at CERN, said the machine is too complicated and that "...it will keep failing until they give up."

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=5213 (scroll down to almost the end of the web page)

Hope she is wrong.

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Posted by nitro on 03-25-09 01:32 PM:

I am 75 delta that Fermilab will prove the existance of the Higgs boson before the LHC even becomes operational:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/b...clephysics-cern

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Posted by Fractals 'R Us on 03-25-09 09:27 PM:

Quote from Wayne Gibbous:

Unfortunately the power of this device will cause a tear into the next dimension and let in all manner of strange and deadly creatures.

I hate when that happens.

Posted by nitro on 06-17-09 02:05 PM:

"Search for 'God particle' hit by huge repair bill."

http://www.newscientist.com/article...epair-bill.html

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Posted by nitro on 07-11-09 02:52 PM:

I can't get enough of PAMELA

http://resonaances.blogspot.com/200...coming-out.html

The PAMELA excess is hyper-interesting.

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Posted by nitro on 10-17-09 08:08 PM:

Cern physicist admits links with al-Qaida

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/200...-al-qaida-links

I don't know exactly what al-Qaida
wants from CERN, but I do know these two facts:

1) Certain forms of Caesium, a sample the size of a pinhead, will kill a human being in minutes. No explosion needed, just exposure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium

2) The most efficient way to release energy is in a mater anti-matter explosion. Even tiny amounts of anti-matter would encinerate a city the size of Chicago. The LHC produces anti-matter in miniscule ammounts.

1/4 of the population of France is unemployed and muslim. I pray these people [the french] understand the problem.

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Posted by nitro on 02-26-10 04:13 PM:

The LHC is getting very close to going hot.

The prize discovery amongst others (e.g., supersymmetry) is the Higgs vector Boson. A very nice article on why it is so important:

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/journal/CERNB...s/1241788?ln=en

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Posted by bronks on 02-26-10 06:24 PM:

Quote from nitro:

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2) The most efficient way to release energy is in a mater anti-matter explosion. Even tiny amounts of anti-matter would encinerate a city the size of Chicago. The LHC produces anti-matter in miniscule ammounts.

...

I know you already know how truly miniscule the amounts of anti-matter that has been captured after all these years... and how many more centuries it would take to have enough to annihilate a toilet.

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Posted by nitro on 02-26-10 06:27 PM:

Quote from bronks:

I know you already know how truly miniscule the amounts of anti-matter that has been captured after all these years... and how many more centuries it would take to have enough to annihilate a toilet.

Ja,

I forget where I read it, but it would bankrupt the United States if it tried to gather enough AM to due any real damage.

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Posted by bronks on 02-26-10 06:38 PM:

Quote from nitro:

Ja,

I forget where I read it, but it would bankrupt the United States if it tried to gather enough AM to due any real damage.

Thing is, if they somehow get a breakthrough and DO manage to produce significant quantities... makes nukes seem like a firecracker. And if I remember correctly, no residual effects like nukes. Of course residual being relative and all...

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Posted by nitro on 03-20-10 04:47 PM:

Oh yeah baby! 3.5 TeV, and counting.

http://www.aolnews.com/science/arti...cord%2F19407271

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Posted by ChkitOut on 03-20-10 05:02 PM:

Quote from nitro:

Oh yeah baby! 3.5 TeV, and counting.

http://www.aolnews.com/science/arti...cord%2F19407271

Sooooooo, is there a parallel universe or not?

And is there another dimension??

Posted by bronks on 03-23-10 01:52 AM:

I'm a quantum mechanics neo-neophyte... I could never grasp the math, but I do think I understand the concepts, albeit a bit iffy. Nitro and/or others will have to set me straight.

QM states that the Universe is probabilistic as opposed to deterministic. Or, if you will, on the principle of sovereignty. Now, on a scientific level, this totally destroys the "god has plan for me" or any other predetermined concepts... this intrigues me as such because at first glance, this contradicts what an omnipotent being should have: control. BUT, upon further review, could he be the ultimate chess player and of knowing ALL probable outcomes? If he is what he is, logic (for lack of a better word) should say yes... then Occums' kicks in and says no, not possi... probable. Then I realize against an almighty, I become inferior and myopic. (The Princess Bride anyone?)

Round and round we go. Except QM has the empirical evidence to prove itself many times over. So, if we let go of the whole god thing for awhile, it frees us up to concentrate on some really interesting theories of space time and superposition and entanglement... of which I find almost, dare I say... magical...

Like I purposed in my other thread: we imagined the car, we drew the car, we built the car, but we are definitely not ready to drive it yet.

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Posted by nitro on 03-30-10 07:40 PM:

http://www.aolnews.com/science/arti...ider%2F19419845

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Posted by nitro on 03-30-10 07:52 PM:

Quote from bronks:
I'm a quantum mechanics neo-neophyte... I could never grasp the math, but I do think I understand the concepts, albeit a bit iffy. Nitro and/or others will have to set me straight.

We are all QM neophytes. No one really understands QMs.

QM states that the Universe is probabilistic as opposed to deterministic. Or, if you will, on the principle of sovereignty.

It says something a little more subtle than that. It says that nature will respond to probes on the extremely microscopic levels depending on how you ask the question. In some cases, the result will be probabilistic, but in other you will always get the same answer.

Now, on a scientific level, this totally destroys the "god has plan for me" or any other predetermined concepts... this intrigues me as such because at first glance, this contradicts what an omnipotent being should have: control.

Well, you are sort of mixing metaphors here. This stuff sphere of influence is on the extremely small. As soon as you put a bunch of particles together into atoms, molecules, or any system where there are large numbers of these things, new emergent properties take over that are "physics" of the large system. It is as if you can't say, if I put all these atoms together, I get a person that is a poet. Where exactly is the poet in each atom?

So it is very very very incorrect to justify life on scales even as large as an omeba and use things like QMs on even this scale.

BUT, upon further review, could he be the ultimate chess player and of knowing ALL probable outcomes? If he is what he is, logic (for lack of a better word) should say yes... then Occums' kicks in and says no, not possi... probable. Then I realize against an almighty, I become inferior and myopic. (The Princess Bride anyone?)

In my vision of GOD, GOD may have designed the Universe, but is not active day-to-day in anything in the Universe, except possibly maintenance once every trillion or so years after each new Big-Bang. There may be a GOD field of some sort, but I doubt that even if it exists, it will be found by reductionist science. This is very possible, but fantastic to think about.

Round and round we go. Except QM has the empirical evidence to prove itself many times over. So, if we let go of the whole god thing for awhile, it frees us up to concentrate on some really interesting theories of space time and superposition and entanglement... of which I find almost, dare I say... magical...

Yep. Science is far stranger and richer than most science fiction and religion. But it is either in you or not. Just like you cannot try to convince someone of the incredible beauty of a Beethoven piano concerto, same here. If it isn't in you already, it will likely never will be. Consider yourself one of the lucky few that sees the astonishing beauty in the Universe in it's raw form.

Like I purposed in my other thread: we imagined the car, we drew the car, we built the car, but we are definitely not ready to drive it yet.

Well, one of the design decisions that GOD made was clearly that you should not have to know any of the inner workings of how the Universe works to be happy just existing and to derive great joy from living. We do the same things in our own designs, just like in the example you give. A car is a fantastically complicated thing, but even my mother can drive one and derive joy and utility from one.

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Posted by bronks on 04-02-10 06:27 PM:

Quote from nitro:

...

It says something a little more subtle than that. It says that nature will respond to probes on the extremely microscopic levels depending on how you ask the question. In some cases, the result will be probabilistic, but in other you will always get the same answer...

You talk'in about Schrodinger's Cat here? The reason I ask is because how you worded it: "... depending on how you ask the question." Which I interpret as how you observe it. To me, as long as you're testing, asking, observing, etc., according to the theory, you've already sealed the probable (not anymore) outcome. And if you extend this theory out... well, let's just say it really boils the cookie.

Quote from nitro:

... Well, you are sort of mixing metaphors here. This stuff sphere of influence is on the extremely small. As soon as you put a bunch of particles together into atoms, molecules, or any system where there are large numbers of these things, new emergent properties take over that are "physics" of the large system. It is as if you can't say, if I put all these atoms together, I get a person that is a poet. Where exactly is the poet in each atom?

So it is very very very incorrect to justify life on scales even as large as an omeba and use things like QMs on even this scale.

Yes I agree. Sort of a demarcation line where QM gives way to popular mechanics and the rules of our physics take over. But, even though the sphere influence is very small, it still influences correct? What else would explain the outliers of any system - those not falling w/in a boundral grouping? That poet could've just as well been born with 6 fingers on each hand and been a hell of a penist... or a one armed canoe paddler. All these clarifier's seem to happen early at the atomic level, no?

Quote from nitro:

... In my vision of GOD, GOD may have designed the Universe, but is not active day-to-day in anything in the Universe, except possibly maintenance once every trillion or so years after each new Big-Bang. There may be a GOD field of some sort, but I doubt that even if it exists, it will be found by reductionist science. This is very possible, but fantastic to think about...

I used to think exactly this way. Now, I'm more inclined to go with the theory from "Contact", in which we never will find out. It's just there along with the ancients. I'm ok with that. I think our life is better served on this planet making it a better place, goodwill to your fellow man and just enjoying the sheer beauty and magical wonder of it all. The Gnostics had something going.

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Posted by TGregg on 04-02-10 06:46 PM:

So how long `til we "see" (or not see) the Higgs Boson?

BTW Every time I see this thread in CC, I mistake the last word. ;)

Posted by bronks on 04-02-10 07:17 PM:

Quote from TGregg:

So how long `til we "see" (or not see) the Higgs Boson?

BTW Every time I see this thread in CC, I mistake the last word. ;)

I think along with that and perhaps of equal stature is the "other" stuff they may find on their way...

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Posted by nitro on 04-04-10 04:26 PM:

Quote from bronks:
You talk'in about Schrodinger's Cat here?

No not really. I have always opined that these thought experiments confuse more than educate.

The reason I ask is because how you worded it: "... depending on how you ask the question." Which I interpret as how you observe it. To me, as long as you're testing, asking, observing, etc., according to the theory, you've already sealed the probable (not anymore) outcome. And if you extend this theory out... well, let's just say it really boils the cookie.

I agree wholeheartedly. I have always had the same objection privately. We are not really discovering how the Universe works, only how the Universe works in response to our questions. Those two things are not the same thing, especially in a quantum mechanical setting. As you point out, maybe all we are doing with our machines is affecting the experiment before it even runs, and what we get back is the way the universe works inside that particular machine. That is why one day, when our perception of the universe is far more mature, our age will be called the age of preconceived technology. String Theory (M-Theory) is very different from old ways of doing science, and many people hate it because it gives answers to an almost infinite number of questions (or is it the other way around?), all of which are beyond testing. There is no constraint (note well, constraint is another word for machine that measures - old style science) that forces an answer. So they claim this is not "science" at all. But this may be the way the universe works!

Yes I agree. Sort of a demarcation line where QM gives way to popular mechanics and the rules of our physics take over. But, even though the sphere influence is very small, it still influences correct?

Well sort of. You should be keying on the word Emergent and leave your study of Quantum Mechanics for a while. It will give you a broader perspective on what we sort of believe today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence

What else would explain the outliers of any system - those not falling w/in a boundral grouping? That poet could've just as well been born with 6 fingers on each hand and been a hell of a penist... or a one armed canoe paddler. All these clarifier's seem to happen early at the atomic level, no?

I don't follow...

I used to think exactly this way. Now, I'm more inclined to go with the theory from "Contact", in which we never will find out. It's just there along with the ancients. I'm ok with that. I think our life is better served on this planet making it a better place, goodwill to your fellow man and just enjoying the sheer beauty and magical wonder of it all. The Gnostics had something going.

Never is a long time.

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Posted by nitro on 04-04-10 04:40 PM:

Quote from TGregg:
So how long `til we "see" (or not see) the Higgs Boson?

Doesn't matter. That is what is so exiting! Physics will need to be rewritten if we find it. And it will need to be rewritten if we don't find it. Something like the Higgs vector boson has already shown up at Fermilab, so I suspect we see it within a year.

BTW Every time I see this thread in CC, I mistake the last word. ;)

Interesting. My sexual mind must shut off when I am thinking about Physics. It never even occurred to me.

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Posted by bronks on 04-06-10 07:18 PM:

Quote from nitro:

...

Well sort of. You should be keying on the word Emergent and leave your study of Quantum Mechanics for a while. It will give you a broader perspective on what we sort of believe today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence

...

I like this passage (out of context): "...Psychology is not applied biology, nor is biology applied chemistry. We can now see that the whole becomes not merely more, but very different from the sum of its parts."

I'm surfacely familiar with emergent science. I stumbled across it years back when I was studying esoteric patterns and trying to fit in to my trading (fractals)... but I digress. I look at it as just another branch of the physics tree. The interesting thing is, on a subatomic level, there is no difference or preference per say, how atoms arrange themselves. Animate/inanimate - sentient/non-sentient, the fact is, there is always either attraction or repulsion(?). What I'm getting at, and you are probably more familiar with it than I, is an experiment done years ago, and please correct me if I'm wrong, where, simply put, robots with a very primitive random motorization system (non-sentient) were distributed throughout a large room and over time, all ended up huddled in one corner. Now this can be explained in a myriad of ways but it all leads (IMO) to attraction/repulsion, no matter how you slice it.

Getting back to the passage - eventually as we become more enlightened, every single one of these boundaries separating these disciplines from physics to metaphysics, from biology to psychology, onto chemistry and wizardry, will melt away and TOE will no longer be a theory... but also, won't be needed.

...I'll get to the other stuff in a bit.

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Posted by killthesunshine on 04-06-10 07:38 PM:

you couldn't find your nutsack with a map..i can't wait for you to "get into it"

Posted by bronks on 04-06-10 08:06 PM:

Quote from killthesunshine:

..i can't wait for you to "get into it"

I'm sure you can't.
But sorry, you'll have get fulfillment from some other source...

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Posted by nitro on 04-15-10 06:46 PM:

Quote from bronks:

I like this passage (out of context): "...Psychology is not applied biology, nor is biology applied chemistry. We can now see that the whole becomes not merely more, but very different from the sum of its parts."

Right, although some elementary chemistry is applied physics.

I'm surfacely familiar with emergent science. I stumbled across it years back when I was studying esoteric patterns and trying to fit in to my trading (fractals)... but I digress. I look at it as just another branch of the physics tree.

Not really. It is its own discipline, and applies equally to all of them (biology is emergent from chemistry, etc.)

The interesting thing is, on a subatomic level, there is no difference or preference per say, how atoms arrange themselves. Animate/inanimate - sentient/non-sentient, the fact is, there is always either attraction or repulsion(?). What I'm getting at, and you are probably more familiar with it than I, is an experiment done years ago, and please correct me if I'm wrong, where, simply put, robots with a very primitive random motorization system (non-sentient) were distributed throughout a large room and over time, all ended up huddled in one corner.

Hmmmm, I am not aware of this experiment. It is an interesting result though. I would expect that if the robot actions were indeed random, then one would expect entropy and diffusion to occurr. That they all end up in one corner could be a result of either hidden correlations in the code that governs the robots movements, or perhaps the random number generators have some sort of undetected attractor unbeknown to the programmers.

Now this can be explained in a myriad of ways but it all leads (IMO) to attraction/repulsion, no matter how you slice it.

It is amazing to me, [and I am not even sure I believe it], that all the diversity we see is a result ultimately of subatomic scattering.

Getting back to the passage - eventually as we become more enlightened, every single one of these boundaries separating these disciplines from physics to metaphysics, from biology to psychology, onto chemistry and wizardry, will melt away and TOE will no longer be a theory... but also, won't be needed.

...I'll get to the other stuff in a bit.

That is not the opinion of current science. In fact, some scientist think that unification is a dead end, a dreamed up luxury of Einstein's. Thing is, many [most, every ?] advance in the elementary sciences have come as the result of some unification of what was once thought to be different phenomena. I don't know what to believe, but if I were allowed wishful thinking, I would wish for unification.

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Posted by nitro on 07-15-10 06:32 PM:

"A new record peak luminosity for the LHC

Two weeks of dedicated machine development paid off last weekend when the LHC ran for physics with three nominal intensity (∼10^11 protons) bunches in each beam...thus achieving the objective of recording one inverse femtobarn of data in total."

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/journal/CERNB...s/1274486?ln=en

Expecting big news within the year.

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Posted by nitro on 08-13-10 08:58 PM:

Some surprising physics already coming in from the LHC:

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/journal/CERNB...s/1281659?ln=en

One interesting comment that traders and model makers should note is:

"....The ALICE experiment�s new measurement of the number of charged particles produced from proton collisions at 7 TeV does not agree with predictions from theoretical models, and will send physicists back to their computers to further refine the models so that they better reflect the way the Universe works and better predict new phenomena..."

Even in a discipline as old as physics, with extremely brilliant people working in the field, we have to go back and tweak as nature teaches us. It should be no shame when we have to do the same in an econometrics or trading model.

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Posted by mike oxbig on 09-23-10 12:53 PM:

Gigantic taxpayer boondogle.

Sold via outlandish claims of discoveries that will occur "in the near future", always just down the road, never arriving at said place in road, and the grandiose hyping of the results of every experiment, as though it's just about to change civilization. Changes to occur, once again, "very soon". Promising that there will be forthcoming applications for numerous other disciplines very soon.

Billions of taxpayer dollars borrowed from the chinese so that a few individuals with delusions of grandeur can ~~debate the number of angels on the head of a pin~~ do a scientific experiment. And we know that we're all supposed to bow down when someone says that magic word...science.

At some point down the road, when taxpayers begin to grumble about a lack of anything substantial from their investment, we're likely to see a very predictable result. The "scientists" will "find" the magnificent discovery they've been looking for, but will refuse to divulge the information, even in the face of freedom of information legal requests, all the while proclaiming there to be a scientific consensus among those with credibility.

Yes, I am anti-science. But, when the definition of science has been perverted and turned on it's head, what choice do I have?

Posted by nitro on 11-02-10 03:48 PM:

Hilarious, you can bet on finding the Higgs Vector Boson on Intrade. Look under scientific category.

http://www.intrade.com/aav2/trading/tradingHTML.jsp#

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Posted by nitro on 04-30-11 05:15 PM:

"LHC sets world record beam intensity"

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/Pres...1/PR02.11E.html

LHC is now on territory not seen before, and it is nowhere near capacity. Within the year as they dial the luminosity dial harder (I think they are progressing carefully they don't want another accident), we will have some very interesting physics to ponder.

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Posted by nitro on 10-08-11 04:29 PM:

"Did the Large Hadron Collider Just Debunk Superstring Theory?"

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,281...bid=3VhbslwCG2p

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Posted by shortie on 10-08-11 07:41 PM:

If the conclusions are true, scientists would need a new leading candidate for the "theory of everything."

FV Model ???

Posted by nitro on 10-08-11 08:42 PM:

Quote from shortie:

If the conclusions are true, scientists would need a new leading candidate for the "theory of everything."

FV Model ???

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Posted by nitro on 11-27-11 09:10 PM:

"Scientists Say They Can Now Test String Theory"

http://www.universetoday.com/72531/...-string-theory/

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Posted by nitro on 12-07-11 02:42 PM:

A Higgs discovery seems imminent, but the weight of it could be bad news for SUSY:

http://physicsworld.com/blog/2011/1...g_for_susy.html

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Posted by nitro on 01-18-12 02:44 AM:

Interesting video. Has a more human feel to it than most:

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Posted by nitro on 01-23-12 04:31 PM:

One of the great things about living near a major university, lectures! I live 10 minutes away from the Evanston campus by car to NWU.

http://www.physics.northwestern.edu/events/index.html

Wish I could attend the one today on the Higgs mechanism and mass, but can't make it

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Posted by lucky lucille on 01-23-12 04:36 PM:

Very cool nitro.

Posted by DT-waw on 01-23-12 06:55 PM:

can this type of analysis, looking into matter describe what humans experience under meditiation or after LSD/DMT?

are the worlds percieved during these altered states of mind in any way connected to matter/strings/whatever particle ?

probably not......

Posted by nitro on 01-23-12 08:22 PM:

Quote from DT-waw:

can this type of analysis, looking into matter describe what humans experience under meditiation or after LSD/DMT?

are the worlds percieved during these altered states of mind in any way connected to matter/strings/whatever particle ?

probably not......

Never say never, but almost certainly not. One thing that is becoming clearer, is that ensembles of things have emergent properties that the individual things do not. So in order to understand human beings, we need to study biology, psychology, neurology etc, and probably even higher level systems that may not even be invented yet, not physics.

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Posted by nitro on 02-21-12 01:06 AM:

Went to the lecture today:

http://lotus.phys.northwestern.edu/...EP_seminar.html

Appears there is a bump in the data around 125 GeV where there is some hope of finding the Higgs boson. Also, while there is no indication that the Higgs is a scalar boson, that is what most believe, so I should probably stop calling a vector boson. Vector vs scalar, meaning that it has only one degree of freedom, as in it doesn't have spin or charge.

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Posted by nitro on 02-21-12 01:19 AM:

BTW, I should add that if the Higgs is at 125 GeV, then 2012 will be an exciting year because it will likely be discovered and announced.

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Posted by nitro on 02-21-12 02:03 PM:

Quote from Buckstops:

Forget SUSY.. she aint home

http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/

The LHC has done an impressive job of investigating and leaving in tatters the SUSY/extra-dimensional speculative universe that has dominated particle theory for much of the last thirty years, and this is likely to be one of its main legacies. These fields will undoubtedly continue to play a large role in particle theory, no matter how bad the experimental situation gets, as their advocates argue �Never, never, never give up!�, but fewer and fewer people will take them seriously. As always seemed likely, the big mystery the LHC will solve will be that of the Higgs: is it really there, and if so does it behave as the Standard Model predicts, or does it do something more interesting? Unfortunately we�re going to have to wait a while longer for more news on that front.

I suspect that the next great new hope will come from theory and not experiment, and I think this is likely where it comes from:

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Posted by nitro on 03-03-12 02:39 PM:

The [lightest] neutralino would probably be the biggest surprise discovery at LHC:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutralino

It would prove the existance of SUSY, and it is [one of the] theorized non-baryonic particles that comprise dark matter.

The reason we suspect that SUSY exists is the properties of the neutralino perfectly solve many of the outstanding problems of the standard model. More, it demands them.

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Posted by nitro on 06-20-12 07:40 PM:

The end is near for the discovery of the Higgs,

http://www.newscientist.com/article...dard-model.html

and the exciting story begins for SUSY?

http://www.newscientist.com/article...iggs-boson.html

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Posted by nitro on 07-04-12 10:10 PM:

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/

3-Sigma that the Higgs is bagged. Can't cal it a discovery until it is 5-Sigma.

Monumental. But the energy of it means that it is a family of Higgs and not a single particle. Great time to become a theoretical or experimental physicist.

People are asking how this will affect them on a day-to-day basis, and the replies are it won't at all. Don't believe it. It is very possible that this will eventually lead to (and may be the to) future technology we can't even imagine yet. Granted, it may take 100 years, but so what?

PS, sorry it is a 5-Sigma event so it is official.

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Posted by nitro on 07-04-12 10:20 PM:

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1458922

Simple video that describes the Higgs field and Higgs boson and how it fits into the Standard Model.

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Posted by nitro on 01-01-13 04:51 PM:

Best introduction to the Higgs mechanism, period:

Susskind makes a couple of mistakes, so double check everything. But the essence of the talk is phenomenal.

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Posted by nitro on 01-01-13 04:53 PM:

This is incredible news:

http://www.newscientist.com/article...ity-crisis.html

We will be seeing new Physics beyond the Standard Model soon is my prediction, and that will be incredibly interesting. SUSY anyone?

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Posted by saxon on 01-03-13 10:07 AM:

Quote from nitro:

This is incredible news:

http://www.newscientist.com/article...ity-crisis.html

We will be seeing new Physics beyond the Standard Model soon is my prediction, and that will be incredibly interesting. SUSY anyone?

And SUSY is beyond the Standard Model?

ok an extension of... not an invalidation of.

Posted by nitro on 01-03-13 01:37 PM:

Quote from saxon:

And SUSY is beyond the Standard Model?

ok an extension of... not an invalidation of.

Right,

This would be Physics unexplained by TSM. SUSY would probably be the strongest evidence for something that is far more general than TSM, String/M-Theory, the implications of which would have as much Philosophical implications as Quantum Mechanics and Special/General did at the turn of the last century.

The speed of light appears to not be constant, also pointing to new Physics beyond SR and GR.

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