Variable Ratio Write Vs. Short Strangle

Discussion in 'Options' started by hweeks, Jun 30, 2015.

  1. hweeks

    hweeks

    It seems to me that a Short Strangle is a better way to achieve a similar P/L profile, unless perhaps you are already long the stock.

    The funny thing is that I can find no mention of the Short Strangle in Options as a Strategic Investment.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. drcha

    drcha

    He might call it something else, but I'm sure he does discuss them.
     
  3. hweeks

    hweeks

    drcha, you are correct. He does discuss them briefly, late in the book, when discussing trading volatility. He does not discuss it when he presents Variable Ratio Write, which is surprising as he usually does tell you when a strategy has a substitute which can be more efficient.

    Are there significant differences between the two that I am missing?
     

  4. Put your thinking cap on and don't let the fancy names fool you.



    Short Strangles
    An equal amount of sold-to-open calls and puts - same expiry, different strike prices.

    Variable Ratio Write
    • Variable = Capable of being changed
    • Ratio = The relation between two numbers.
    • Write = Sell-to-open option position.

    Can you figure out how they might differ?


    :)
     
  5. hweeks

    hweeks

    Thanks. I understood Variable to refer to the varying strike prices as opposed to a Ratio Write where all the Calls are the same strike price.

    But I think I understand your point, that a VRW is more easily adjustable to maintain neutrality, is that correct?
     

  6. Variable could also be referring to the call/put ratio. Sell 3 puts for every short call, sell 4 puts buy 2 calls, and so on.



    Yes .... Or reduce the risk. Variable Ratio Write covers a huge amount of possible option positions, just like a Vertical. I don't like option position names because they mean nothing and can be interpreted in many ways - I prefer real quotes, expiry dates and strikes.


    :)
     
  7. hweeks

    hweeks

    Thanks.

    So here's there real stuff. Prices from yesterday, 6/30/15. Pardon if my syntax isn't up to snuff.

    GPRO 53
    Aug 21 60 Call 1.60
    Aug 21 45 Put 1.50
    Aug 21 45 Call 9

    I first considered a VRW:

    Long 100 GPRO
    Short 1 45 Call
    Short 1 60 Call

    This has a max profit of $260 and an initial margin requirement of about $4300

    I then realized that a Short Strangle:

    Short 1 45 Put
    Short 1 60 Call

    has a max profit of $310 and an initial margin requirement of less than $1000.

    I sold to open the Short Strangle.
     
  8. yroyal

    yroyal

    Variable Ratio Write scores over Short Strangle in its Adjustability... Its easier to adjust the trade profitably, once the breakevens are breached
     
  9. water7

    water7

    what do you mean by "easier to adjust"?
    let's use @hweeks example and assume GPRO is super liquid

    thanks before :]