ETF 3x options

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by marsman, Jun 21, 2016.

  1. marsman

    marsman

    Hi,
    I've the feeling (as I couldn't test them all yet, just a few only) that the 3x leveraged ETFs are the best vehicles to trade for options traders.
    Some examples: DUST, JNUG, ...
    What is your experience with and opinion about such leveraged ETFs?
     
  2. marsman

    marsman

    Connection to what?
     
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  3. marsman

    marsman

    My scanner finds very profitable trades with such ETFs.
    Not sure, maybe these ETFs don't have any MMs? Can this be true?
     
  4. zdreg

    zdreg

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    then switch to being an etf trader from being an options trader if you can.

    "that the 3x leveraged ETFs are the best vehicles to trade for options traders."
    if you are an options trader the best trading vehicle is options not some other instrument of trading. the remark makes no sense.
     
  5. marsman

    marsman

    "product" or instrument was meant; vehicle is the wrong word, yes true.
     
  6. 1245

    1245

    Your scanner is not taking into account the wide markets and high margin requirements of these products. Good luck getting in and out without losing your vig.

    Good luck....
     
  7. marsman

    marsman

    Hmm. you could be right if ETF options have different margin requirements, I'll need to check this. Thx for the info.

    Update:
    Yes, the margin requirements for leveraged ETFs are indeed much higher:
    http://ibkb.interactivebrokers.com/node/1124
    Ie. 90% for 3x :-(
    Then I think I better should forget trading ETFs and ETF options.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2016
  8. How good is the volume? Some of these ETFs have so low volume you would be buying & selling at the MM's very wide spread. Or unable to exit/enter a position for so long that the opportunity passes.

    Perhaps you were thinking:
    Option gives Leverage
    3x ETF gives Leverage
    Leverage on a Leverage!!!

    True in theory, but not so much in practice. Although if you are avoiding margin accounts (or going into margin) it could be an option (no pun intended). But you might find better liquidity at 2x.