Buy on Breakout or Retrace ?

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by SimpleMeLike, Jun 16, 2016.

  1. Hello,

    I am price action trader practicing sim ES

    See example attached

    I normally look for price entry long on break out of resistance and retrace. Vice versa for short.

    Sometimes I get confused, if i draw demand line supporting the upward as I am waiting for retrace and good price entry.

    If demand line is broke should i still consider buying the retrace or should I just practicing buying breakout?

    A bit confused
     
  2. heypa

    heypa

    The second mouse gets usually gets more cheese with more safety.
     
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  3. The problem with price action traders is that they do "hindsight work" in clean price action, then it looks academic, "ok i can do this". Obviously you will find clean action in clean price action, just like you will find good buy signals in uptrends and good short signals in downtrends.

    However, do the same on erratic action and you will get random results, so you at the mercy of good action, not a trivial pre-requisite.

    Careful, most fail at this, but very few tell you why.
     
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2016
  4. Redneck

    Redneck

    Breakout or Retrace

    Two separate an distinctive trades
    Each with their own characteristics, benefits, and pitfalls

    Learn each, AND never morph one - into the other

    RN
     
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  5. Handle123

    Handle123

    Very little safety in day trading for most and what we depend on, there are feel good trades and they usually have greatest risk cause as price going up you getting onboard and well back tested well defined patterns offer least risk of buying as price is dropping. Days of risking one point in ES are few. Buying on breaking of Super Steep upsloping trendline? How much study have you done on big range bars and speed of price? Bigger the range near highs, like over 4 points for that timeframe on one bar, you can expect deeper retracement. Also, notice pivot high earlier at 2054 which at that time was Head & Shoulders to sell in a downtrend, there was no close above 2054 till other leg up, so that tells me the highs were weak at 10:30cdt, plus the reversal bar at highs, you might want to replace that whatever at bottom with volume will show increase of bigger traders piling on for reversal trade sells, be that are it may, entry long be below the lows of huge range bar. And the feel good breakout at 11:00.

    TaDa
     
  6. TradeCat

    TradeCat

    I used to chase trends and breakouts. But then I started to trade.
     
  7. That statement is more ambiguous than Kevin Spacey when asked about his sexuality.
     
  8. wartrace

    wartrace

    You need to look at the orderflow.
     
  9. ...and more ambiguity to the newbies, seems to be the norm here in ET. Act like you know shit, without saying shit lol
     
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  10. wartrace

    wartrace

    If you are interested in learning a little bit about trading order flow Jigsaw trading has a free course. http://www.jigsawtrading.com/learn-to-trade/free-order-flow-analysis-lessons/

    Sorry if my short answer didn't help you. Learn the shit. It's good shit. It will help you stay out of the shit. :finger:
     
    #10     Jun 16, 2016