Capitalism is not sending jobs and money overseas - Trump

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    Yes, you have.
     
    #41     Feb 12, 2016
  2. fhl

    fhl


    Yes, unskilled labor is screwed in a world economy. There's no question about that.
    They're at the bottom of the work force and have no leverage. Except maybe at the ballot box.
    They are going to receive the lowest wages in America. How could it be otherwise?

    But here's the thing. Why do people on the bottom of the labor force think they should be able to buy the avg new car that costs 35g? Why should they be able to buy the avg new house that goes for 250g? Why should their health care coverage include everything from sex change reassignment to the newest and best mri machines that cost the doc a million dollars or the newest drug that goes for a grand a pill? It just doesn't compute. Bottom earners can't live an average life.

    As far as protectionist policies, companies always do better with them. Company execs are the ones lobbying for it. They make more profits if they have no competition. But that only works for awhile. Eventually, because they get lazy with no competition, they get so far behind what the rest of the world offers that their business will suffer.
    So if they don't get any protection from competition, they have to win in the marketplace and make the changes necessary and that often includes offshoring. This is their fallback option. Not their first choice. Their first choice was protection. If they don't move to where they can get a better deal on production costs, then they lose in the marketplace. Sales and profits will suffer.

    I guess it's all a matter of philosophy, but mine is that a free mkt will work better than a gov't run mkt. Besides that, I don't think gov't has any business telling me what to buy or anything else.
     
    #42     Feb 12, 2016
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  3. man, you're on a roll. One side says there is no such thing as pure capitalism, the other side is fighting for a purer capitalism.
     
    #43     Feb 12, 2016
  4. The main reason a new car costs $35k is that the government has mandated so many costly features. The fuel economy mandate alone has forced a total redesign of cars and trucks. We get tiny unsafe cars that get good gas mileage in a world awash in crude oil.
     
    #44     Feb 12, 2016
  5. all I want is a seatbelt exemption. I'd be happy to pay for my own death if they would let me have my old bench seat back where I could sleep if I drank too much.
     
    #45     Feb 12, 2016
  6. Would you have any meaningful details on how much more it costs to make a fuel efficient car as compared to an inefficient one? And if you're so big on corporate productivity and efficiency, whatever the human cost, then why question the output of efficient products?
     
    #46     Feb 12, 2016
  7. We can all debate until we're blue in the face about who is to blame and which party has a viable fix, but I know this. If you're going to make decisions that will grow the underclass, you shouldn't be surprised when the need for social programs expand exponentially.
     
    #47     Feb 12, 2016
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  8. jem

    jem

    I think we are also missing the point that if you tariffs work you can cut income tax rates or eliminate them.

    We are also forgetting that there was predatory trade and dumping... which did not get not only eliminated profits for executives... it eliminated industries and jobs. In this case tariffs would allow people to have manufacturing jobs they should have had instead of being on govt handouts.

    Its all about how they are structured. I also know the current way of doing things has really worked out poorly for the taxpayers and working class of this country.

    So why not eliminate income taxes and set up tariffs to bring industries back home.
     
    #48     Feb 12, 2016
  9. the underclass is growing everywhere we send our jobs to. The only debate is who is the underclass. And those jobs go to the underclass who is most capitalistic.
     
    #49     Feb 12, 2016
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    Cars have never been safer, and only now is the world in such oil surplus.
     
    #50     Feb 12, 2016