Mark to market election experience for LLC

Discussion in 'Taxes and Accounting' started by Tou, Sep 18, 2015.

  1. Tou

    Tou

    I plan to start a new LLC in October 2015 for my trading account and will make a note in my logs that I want to use mark to market election for my accounting method for tax filing of 2015 and going on wards when I file taxes before April 15, 2016.

    Does anyone have experience in retroactive mark - to - market election.

    I talked to a couple of CPAs and in my small town seems like no one has experience regarding that. Anyone know of a CPA who has helped them with this.
     
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  2. rmorse

    rmorse Sponsor

    I thought you had to elect for a calendar year before you file your tax return. So for 2015, you had to do that by April 15 2015. There might be another process to do this now, for 2015 that I'm not aware of.
     
  3. R1234

    R1234

    You're best off using a professional to do this. I used Green & Co a couple of years back. The formation docs are very specific to a Trader Entity. If you botch the initial setup and legalese, there's a chance it may not be a legit 'Trader Entity' in the eyes of the IRS.
     
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  4. Tou

    Tou

    Since the LLC did not exist before April 15 this year so there is no way I could have asked for mark to market election. So, the first instance I get to ask for mark to market is next year when I file taxes.
     
  5. Tou

    Tou

    Is Green & Co reasonable price ? Do you remember what they charged ?
     
  6. R1234

    R1234

    I don't remember the exact amount but it was pretty reasonable. Maybe a few hundred dollars
     
  7. Occam

    Occam

    One thing to watch out for with an MTM LLC is that your gains become "ordinary gains" which don't necessarily offset any negative "capital gains" outside of the LLC -- for example, if you traded futures outside of your MTM LLC, which I think could make sense, at least in some cases. Of course, the "ordinary gains" status is very useful in some other types of scenarios, as you're probably aware.
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2015

  8. A new taxpayer must place a statement in their books and records within the first 2.5 months of the first taxable year indicating the 475 election is being made, the effect year, and to what business it will apply. This election will get attached to your first tax return. The election is effected when placed in the books and records.
     
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