If you want a Designer, just ask the question: Why are there physical laws at all? In addition, why are they ALWAYS mathematical? Even the most profound scientist in existence can imagine how that could be, but will admit at that point that a Designer is possible at those long odds. They might say, as our understanding evolves the answer will become obvious. But that is a leap of faith that there is always an answer and that we can understand it given enough time. It is Induction, not Deduction. In fact, always having an answer is to me at least more evidence for a Designer, not less. What scientist don't get is that the existence of science itself is evidence for GOD, or maybe better said, a Designer. That is really strange, but think about it. The only way out is infinity in either case, which until recently, we didn't really understand even in a childish way. And, no one has ever seen PHYSICAL infinity, only mathematical infinity.
My guesses again: 1. The Mystery is God! Science including maths is used to find out more and more about God's mystery. Maths just like language is merely a tool invented/used by human beings for a specific purpose - Communication. 2. Chaos theory for its relations of orderly patterns could be one of the most important concept/direction for the origin of many mysteries including creation. https://www.google.com/search?q=ord...oTCPKSr62bp8gCFQKVlAodZbUI5Q&biw=1138&bih=549 3. Physical infinity including the smallest particle should be Never possible, theoretically. However this kind of (re)search do drive advancement of science development. Better don't forget resolving important practical problems including particularly peacebuilding/ sustainability/ etc.!
i'm not sure what you meant by this...your spiritual side? ps never was comfortable nwith her speech here, but rest of film we are part of something bigger, a lot bigger spiritual? thats just your neurology speaking to you complex neural circuits "feel" transcendent; its BS
So why if they are always mathematical, would that not just mean that Math was the 'Designer'? Physical laws are the observed inherent characteristics of a thing, what ever that thing is; space or time or matter. Everything has its inherent characteristics. If it did not, it would be something else, which has its own inherent characteristics! Surely that doesn't suggest some form of divine designer, but rather inevitable outcomes due to inherent characteristics. None of the (mathematical) answers ever include the need for a Designer(God). For what rational reason would you think answers without requirement for one, is evidence for one.
This in itself is an extremely difficult question we don't have the answer to. Is math a product of the human mind and is therefore created? Or is it "out there" waiting to be discovered. If it is "out there", why does EVERY PHYSICAL action in the Universe follow some physical law? What is the thing that ties the shoe laces together? Saying that there doesn't need to be one is saying that you are willing to play the powerball lottery every day and expect to win it and don't think anything unusual happens if you do. And yet, someone does win the powerball, but only as the expectancy of huge numbers prevail. I realize I am not answering your question. It is because I don't have an answer. This is all far beyond our current understanding. It is like asking man 100,000 years ago to explain how airplanes fly. That is tautologous. It offers no explanation. Something is mathematical because it is. And if it isn't, it isn't. Not that I don't understand your point. I think that these sorts of arguments say more about the person's own bias than the thing itself. To me, what you are describing is intuitively obviously wrong. And yet, I could easily put myself in your shoes and see the reasoning mistakes that I could be making the exact opposite. But tautology says nothing. Or it says everything. Take your pick. Strange as it may seem, the goal of all of mathematics is to make things tautologous in appearance. But it hides a torturous path that it took to get there. Either infinity again, or an ancient GOD with fantastic powers of reasoning. That sides steps the question. Why does EVERYTHING (we know of) have an inherent characteristic to follow physical law? The only explanation is infinity of possibilities. That there are an infinite number of Multiverse, and every possible Universe is "out there". Then, the only Universes where they will appear designed are ones where physical laws are mathematical, and therefore creation can be traced back to random cause simply by the argument of large numbers. Some Universe won the Multiverse Powerball. These universes will create intelligent life that can ask these questions. Without evidence of the infinite number of them, we will appear special. Hence the possible illusion of a Designer. Sure, if this is the case, there is no need for a Designer. But infinity in space or time is JUST as hard to swallow for me as a Designer is, except that even in the Designer case these things lead to infinite regress. It is an impossible question given our current understanding. You are making a mistake that is easy to make. It is not mathematics that says there is a GOD. It is meta-mathematics that suggests it. And then, as Godel and Turing and Wittgenstein before them proved, there is meta-meta-mathematics, and infinite regress again. The difference is we know how to handle mathematical infinity. I have no idea what to make of physical infinity. Maybe one day. If that day comes, I will be more weighted to the random cause side than I am now. But Quantum Mechanics is most definitely pointing to discreet finite space-time. It is the mathematics itself that needs to be infinite, even in describing finite things. That's the Many Worlds Interpretation and infinity crawls back in the back door. But that could just be ignorance of where we are in our understanding.
Q The Brain or the Universe – Where Does Math Come From? http://www.kavlifoundation.org/science-spotlights/brain-or-universe-–-where-does-math-come Four scientists debate ideas on whether math is an inherent part of our reality, or merely something our brains use to cope with and explain our environment. ... SPOTLIGHT INDEX Is the universe inherently mathematical... ...Or is mathematics a construct of he brain? Cultural mathematic differences How mathematics has evolved Uncovering the origins of math UQ
" RAFAEL NÚÑEZ: Take the mathematical notion that ‘0 factorial = 1’. This ‘truth’ doesn’t exist anywhere in the universe, and it doesn’t come out straight from brain activity. But in the culture of mathematical practice, certain mathematicians realized that they needed this ‘truth’ for certain things to work out, and adopted it. " Q https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factorial All of the above definitions incorporate the instance 0! = 1, \ in the first case by the convention that the product of no numbers at all is 1. This is convenient because: * There is exactly one permutation of zero objects (with nothing to permute, "everything" is left in place). * The recurrence relation (n + 1)! = n! × (n + 1), valid for n > 0, extends to n = 0. * It allows for the expression of many formulae, such as the exponential function, as a power series: e^x = \sum_{n = 0}^{\infty}\frac{x^n}{n!}. * It makes many identities in combinatorics valid for all applicable sizes. The number of ways to choose 0 elements from the empty set is \tbinom{0}{0} = \tfrac{0!}{0!0!} = 1. More generally, the number of ways to choose (all) n elements among a set of n is \tbinom nn = \tfrac{n!}{n!0!} = 1. The factorial function can also be defined for non-integer values using more advanced mathematics, detailed in the section below. This more generalized definition is used by advanced calculators and mathematical software such as Maple or Mathematica. UQ