The day to day psychology of a trader

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by smallStops, Feb 19, 2015.

  1. cornix

    cornix

    Do you think the problem is too tight risk control then? Getting out of losing trades too early?
     
    #141     Mar 4, 2015
  2. Oh well, one example where core psychology/spirituality comes in play.
    IF deep down the trader's main issue is safety/security, and the trader believes that the best way to achieve it is to not get exposed to the unsafe environment of the market.

    Then indeed : short term charts is best. Agree

    This is very subtile understanding of what is really into the trader's mindset.
    Now, if a trader was to not up the sizes :
    * or the profits will be small
    * or the trader will have to be often in the market.

    So the only way would be to up the sizes for "quick huge bucks".

    Now if the trader is "overcapitalized" ( to take into account greed) , then there is no need to overleverage.

    But then the issue of reducing the presence in the market is still there.
    In the case of being "overcapitalized", then the trader might develop fears of putting a trade.
     
    #142     Mar 4, 2015
  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Certainly. Trader who is scared and/or under-capitalized places their stops where they are likely to be taken out, because they don't have the capital to place them where they should be.
     
    #143     Mar 4, 2015
  4. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
    some people are asking about my "psy" shop fees : Not opened yet!!!!


    OK , now , more psychology.

    IF you were from a third world country, or from an area where poverty is rife
    and millions of people would leave to move to Europe.
    Now, you are used as a sosie/look-alike of someone who has terminal disease.
    Then as the terminal diseases are as they are ( cancers, etc...), the "original"
    person dies. What would you do ?
    - do your best to stay in Europe, and do some Ghost Identity Theft
    OR
    - would you go back to the place where everybody dreams of leaving,
    without ensuring you keep the ID that allows you back into Europe?


    What is complicated to understand :
    the despair of poverty? the dreams of staying in Europe?
    Identity theft? or Ghost identity theft?


    Now look to traders who are undercapitalized and need to make money:
    - overleveraging to make as much money as possible.
    But because of the risk, the habits of exiting as quickly as possible , and not holding
    the trade for fear of losing profits, can also quicks in.
    What is it not to understand : it is normal human psychology due to
    undercapitalization.
     
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    #144     Mar 4, 2015
  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Exactly right. This should be the position that every trader is in. Under-capitalized traders have it backwards. They are the ones that should be in "no margin" situations.
     
    #145     Mar 4, 2015
  6. So that leaves :
    * making an enormous amount of trades if scalping
    OR
    * catching mega trends
    OR
    * trading on highest time frames as possible.
     
    #146     Mar 4, 2015
  7. cornix

    cornix

    Which tactics of stop placement do you suggest then, based on your experience?
     
    #147     Mar 4, 2015
  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Stops should be placed outside the noise as the individual trader sees it, and must also not exceed a loss of 2% of TLNW. That number should be used to determine position size.
     
    #148     Mar 4, 2015
  9. It is interesting to be updated on the new funded traders on Topstep! :):):)
    The instruments they trade, etc. This gives another perspective on their trading.

    Just now, Book n°1 is advancing. The patience required is just astronomous:
    now when I think of trading, I come to realise that patience patience patience is really key.

    No need to take any risks because of impatience.
    I wish I had applied this before losing 1,400$ on one of my "side account".
    I might do one test on one account : take just one intraday trade per week. And see how
    the impatience manifests itself. Actually, as I am on a continous combine, try this on the Combine. That would be demonstrating extreme patience.

    Idolatry : this one is just so key. I can read the spirituality of "idolatry" quasi everywhere.
    And I realize that each time I have been position-sizing incorrectly, it was due to these
    atmosphere of "idolatry" taking form. Something to ponder over the week-end.
     
    #149     Mar 7, 2015
  10. :D:D:D:D It really looks like for once
    I am in the right place, at the right moment, doing the right thing : finishing this book!!!!!

    For those who want to bet on panick in Cac40 in few weeks time: normally, the "extrême ring party" is going to score big this month. :):):).
    A bit of panic to the market.
    Now, it is up to you to know which firms will be most impacted.
     
    #150     Mar 8, 2015