HFT US equities comms

Discussion in 'Automated Trading' started by obsidian, Jan 31, 2015.

  1. obsidian

    obsidian

    Hi

    We are looking at getting into HFT on US equities. Most of the experience is in FX/Futures, and my knowledge of how low comms go might be stale.

    $3/10000 is what we have been offered--is this good/bad/average? On a 20 USD stock this comes out to $15/million notional.
     
  2. rmorse

    rmorse Sponsor

    That rate is called 3 mils or $0.0003/share. I don't know any customers that get that rate anymore for execution and clearing. I'm not sure what you meant by,"On a 20 USD stock this comes out to $15/million notional". If you are charged 3 mils and you trade 100M shares in a month, that will cost you $30,000 in commission.

    Keep in mind that this US equity MM strategy is very competitive with many players getting directed order flow. And, non-display market data fees at co-locations like NY4 have gone up substantially 01/01/2015. See attached:
     
  3. obsidian

    obsidian

    Thanks for the response. We are 3mils excluding pass-through fees and excluding colo charges (although Mahwah is probably enough to start).

    I don't think we would be subject to non-display fees, but I'm not sure. Why do you think we would be?
     
  4. rmorse

    rmorse Sponsor

    Because you fit the definition. An automated trading system. 3 mils is a very good rate.

    Examples of Non-Display Use are, but are not limited to:  Any trading in any asset classAutomated order or quote generation and/or order pegging  Price referencing for algorithmic trading  Price referencing for smart order routing  Operations control programs  Investment analysis  Order verification  Surveillance programs  Risk management  Compliance  Portfolio Valuation

    Good luck..bob