Conservative Options Trades

Discussion in 'Journals' started by danshirley, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. PG:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/p-g-pg-misses-earnings-131901308.html

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/p-g-fiscal-2q-earnings-131551889.html

    http://www.thestreet.com/story/1302...hares-on-pullback.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=PG Key Statistics

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=pg

    Trade:
    with PG at 86.25
    July 95/100 bear call spread for a net credit of $35
    Yield = 35/465 = 7.5% in 171 days or 16% annualized
    Prob = 83%
    Expectation = .83(35) - .07(465) - .10(233) = 29.1 - 32.6 - 23.3 = -26.8

    Price...........Profit/ Loss.........ROM %
    80.00............35.00................7.50%
    85.00............35.00................7.50%
    90.00............35.00................7.50%
    95.00............35.00................7.50%
    95.35..............0.00................0.00%
    100.00.........(465.00)...........-93.00%
    110.00.........(465.00)...........-93.00%
    115.00.........(465.00)............-93.00%
    125.00..........(465.00)...........-93.00%


    Alternate:
    with PG at 86.25
    July 75/70 bull put spread for a net credit of $30
    Yield = 30/470 = 6.38% in 171 days or 13.6%
    Prob = 91%
    Expectation = .91(30) - .02(470) - .07(235) = 27.3 - 9.4 - 16.4 = 1.5

    Price...............Profit / Loss...........ROM %
    60.00.................(470.00).............-94.00%
    65.00.................(470.00).............-94.00%
    70.00.................(470.00).............-94.00%
    74.26...................(43.70)..............-8.74%
    74.70.....................0.00..................0.00%
    75.00....................30.00..................6.38%
    80.00....................30.00..................6.38%
    90.00....................30.00..................6.38%
    100.00..................30.00..................6.38%

    Hmmm.....could do an Iron Condor
    :)
     
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2015
    #921     Jan 27, 2015
  2. T

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/t-fourth-quarter-revenue-rises-212927994.html

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/big-costs-drag-t-4q-215445662.html

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/at...-after-earnings-beat-2015-01-27?siteid=yhoof2

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=T Key Statistics

    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=T Interactive#{"range":"2y","scale":"linear"}

    Trade:
    With T at 32.81
    July 28/25 bull put spread for a net credit of $28
    Yield = 28/272 = 10.29% in 171 days or 22% annualized
    Prob = 89%
    Expectation = .89(28) - .02(272) - .09(136) = 24.92 - 5.44 - 12.24 = 7.5

    Price............Profit / Loss.........ROM %
    20.00.............(272.00)...............-90.67%
    23.00.............(272.00)...............-90.67%
    25.00.............(272.00)...............-90.67%
    27.52..............(20.00)................-6.67%
    27.72.................0.00....................0.00%
    28.00................28.00..................10.29%
    30.00................28.00..................10.29%
    35.00................28.00..................10.29%
    40.00................28.00..................10.29%
     
    #922     Jan 27, 2015
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  3. GE:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/24/technology/general-electric-q4-earnings.html?_r=0

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=GE&annual

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=GE

    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GE Interactive#{"range":"2y","scale":"linear","comparisons":{"^GSPC":{"color":"#cc0000","weight":1}}}

    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GE Interactive#{"range":"2y","scale":"linear"}

    Trade:
    with GE at 23.84
    Jan '16 20/28 bull put spread for a net credit of $26.
    Yield = 26/174 = 14.9% in 352 days or 15.5% annualized
    Prob = 88%
    Expectation = .88(26) - .03(174) - .09(87) = 22.9 - 5.2 - 7.8 = 10

    Price..........Profit / Loss..........ROM %
    13.50..........(174.00)...............-87.00%
    16.63..........(174.00)...............-87.00%
    18.00..........(174.00)...............-87.00%
    19.74...............0.00...................0.00%
    19.92.............18.10...................9.05%
    20.00.............26.00..................14.90%
    23.21.............26.00..................14.90%
    26.51.............26.00..................14.90%
    29.80.............26.00..................14.90%
     
    #923     Jan 28, 2015
  4. CREE:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cree-inc-cree-shares-march-142602370.html

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cree-tops-street-2q-forecasts-212459065.html

    http://www.thestreet.com/story/1301...ter-earnings-beat.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/summit-research-says-cree-nothing-140458203.html

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/stockdetails/fi-126.1.CREE.NAS?symbol=CREE&form=PRFIEQ

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=cree

    Trade:
    with CREE at 35.75
    Sept 25/20 bull put spread for a net credit of $38
    Yield = 38/462 = 8.22% in 231 days or 13% annualized
    Prob = 86%
    Expectation = .86(38) - .03(462) - .11(231) = 32.7 - 13.9 - 25.4 = -6.6

    Price................Profit / Loss............ROM %
    15.00................(462.00)..............-92.40%
    20.00................(462.00)..............-92.40%
    20.70................(392.20)..............-78.44%
    24.62....................0.00...................0.00%
    25.00...................38.00..................8.22%
    26.70...................38.00..................8.22%
    32.69...................38.00..................8.22%
    38.69...................38.00..................8.22%
    44.69...................38.00..................8.22%
     
    #924     Jan 30, 2015
  5. RES:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bear-day-rpc-res-bear-060006065.html

    http://news.investors.com/business/...s-as-oil-companies-like-cenovus-cut-costs.htm

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=RES Key Statistics

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=res

    Trade:
    with RES at 12.47
    SEP 17.5/20 bear call spread for a net credit of $25
    Yield = 25/225 = 11.1% in 228 days or 17.8% annualized
    Prob = 85.6%
    Expectation = .86(25) - .075(225) - .065(113) = 21.5 - 16.9 - 7.3 = -3

    Price............Profit / Loss..........ROM %
    10.00..............25.00..................11.10%
    12.50..............25.00..................11.10%
    15.00..............25.00..................11.10%
    17.50..............25.00..................11.10%
    17.75................0.00....................0.00%
    18.68.............(92.80)................-37.12%
    20.00...........(225.00)................-90.00%
    22.50...........(225.00)................-90.00%
    25.00...........(225.00)................-90.00%
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2015
    #925     Feb 2, 2015
  6. TEVA:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/teva-beats-q4-earnings-penny-140102238.html

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/stockdetails/fi-126.1.TEVA.NYS?symbol=TEVA&form=PRFIEQ

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=teva

    Trade:
    With TEVA at $58
    #1
    Sept 47.50/45 bull put spread for a net credit of $25
    Yield = 25/225 = 11.1% in 223 days or 18.2% annualized
    Prob = 81%
    Expectation = .81(25) - .13(225) - .04(113) = 20.25 - 29.25 - 4.25 = -13.25

    #2
    Sept 50/47.50 bull put spread for a net credit of $40
    Yield = 40/210 = 19% in 223 days or 31% annualized
    Prob = 74%
    Expectation = .74(40) - .19(210) - .07(105) = 29.6 - 39.9 - 7.4 = -17.7

    These two expectations are not significantly different from each other. The second trade has a higher payout but a lower probability and the two factors balance each other pretty closely.

    From a purely statistical point of view, if I consistently trade either strategy the long term result will be pretty close to the same....zero.

    :)
     
    #926     Feb 6, 2015
  7. ABBV:

    http://online.barrons.com/news/arti...4580437782429687348?mod=yahoobarrons&ru=yahoo

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=ABBV Key Statistics

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/stockdetails/fi-126.1.ABBV.NYS?symbol=ABBV&form=PRFIEQ

    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=ABBV Interactive#{"range":"2y","scale":"linear"}

    Trade:
    with ABBV at 56.90
    Jan '16 45/42.50 bull put spread for a net credit of $50
    Yield = 50/200 = 25% in 341 days or 27% annualized
    Prob = 78%
    Expectation = .78(50) - .16(200) - .06(150) = 39 - 32 - 9 = -2

    Price.....................Profit / Loss...............ROM %
    31.88......................(200.00)...................-80.00%
    39.41......................(200.00)...................-80.00%
    42.50......................(200.00)...................-80.00%
    44.50...........................0.00.......................0.00%
    45.00.........................50.00......................25.00%
    50.00.........................50.00......................25.00%
    55.00.........................50.00......................25.00%
    60.00.........................50.00......................25.00%
    65.00.........................50.00......................25.00%
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2015
    #927     Feb 8, 2015
  8. FSLR:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/miguelh...olar-farm-to-power-all-california-operations/

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/stockdetails/fi-126.1.FSLR.NAS?symbol=FSLR&form=PRFIEQ

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=FSLR

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=fslr

    Trade:
    with FSLR at 49.46
    Jan '16 40/37.5 bull put spread for a net credit of $150

    Price.............Profit / Loss...........ROM %
    30.00.............(100.00)...............-40.00%
    35.00.............(100.00)...............-40.00%
    37.50.............(100.00)...............-40.00%
    38.50..................0.00...................0.00%
    40.00...............150.00.................60.00%
    42.50...............150.00.................60.00%
    45.00...............150.00.................60.00%
    50.00...............150.00.................60.00%
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2015
    #928     Feb 11, 2015
  9. TSLA:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/teslas-4q-profit-falls-strong-223908770.html

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-posts-q4-miss-blames-235410086.html

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/what-s-wrong-with-tesla---maybe-nothing-145056303.html

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=TSLA

    Trade:
    With TSLA at 204.50
    Jun 265/270 bear call spread for a net credit of $50
    Yield = 50/450 = 11.1% in 124 days or 32.7% annualized
    Prob = 80%
    Expectation = .8(50) - .18(450) - .02(225) = 40 - 81 - 4.5 = -45.5

    Price.............Profit / Loss.............ROM %
    159.60...............50.00....................11.11%
    193.74...............50.00....................11.11%
    229.68...............50.00....................11.11%
    265.00...............50.00....................11.11%
    265.50.................0.00.....................0.00%
    265.62..............(12.10)..................-2.42%
    270.00..............(450.00)...............-90.00%
    301.56..............(450.00)...............-90.00%
    337.50..............(450.00)...............-90.00%
     
    #929     Feb 11, 2015
  10. WMT:
    http://seekingalpha.com/article/2837796-wal-mart-set-for-a-promising-2015

    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=WMT Interactive#{"range":"2y","scale":"linear"}

    Trade:
    with WMT at 85.81
    Sept 70/67.5 bull put spread for a net credit of $21
    Yield = 21/229 = 9.2% in 215 days or 15.6% annualized
    Prob = 92%
    Expectation = .92(21) - .05(229) - .03(115) = 19.3 - 11.4 - 3.4 = 4.5


    Price..............Profit / Loss............ROM %
    50.00...............(229.00)................-91.60%
    60.00...............(229.00)................-91.60%
    67.50...............(229.00)................-91.60%
    69.79....................0.00....................0.00%
    70.00...................21.00...................9.20%
    75.00...................21.00...................9.20%
    80.00...................21.00...................9.20%
    85.00...................21.00...................9.20%
    90.00...................21.00...................9.20%
     
    #930     Feb 15, 2015