how to balance risk in a portfolio?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by CaesarSupreme, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/6 + 1/9 = 37/36, so the right ratios are
    2% use 1/2 x 36/37 = 18/37 and its risk is 2% x 18/37 = 36%/37.
    4% use 1/4 x 36/37 = 9/37 and its risk is 4% x 9/37 = 36%/37.
    6% use 1/6 x 36/37 = 6/37 and its risk is 6% x 6/37 = 36%/37.
    9% use 1/9 x 36/37 = 4/37 and its risk is 9% x 4/37 = 36%/37.

    If you don't like the fractions, multiply everything by 37 and get:
    Buy 18 of the 2% to give 36% risk
    Buy 9 of the 4% to give 36% risk
    Buy 6 of the 6% to give 36% risk
    Buy 4 of the 9% to give 36% risk.

    All the risks are the same.
     
    #11     Jan 27, 2015
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  2. Cool, I think this will work.. Thanks a lot.

    to the poster earlier, I'm not struggling with the basics i needed information on the math alone. Im not looking for a debate, i trust my strategy and need no help in that category.
     
    #12     Jan 27, 2015
  3. I found an issue with the above but I figured out how to get my end result.

    For those who are interested here is how it works. The above does give you the correct method for balancing the risks but they are left in terms of the risk itself. if you notice the above final percentages don't equal 100 as they should in a portfolio. 18,9,6.4 equal 37 not 100 which we are looking for. to remedy this we multiply those percentages by 100 and then divide that by the original 37 to arrive at the amount each risk should represent in a portfolio.

    2% would become 48.6%
    4% would become 24.3%
    6% would become 16.2%
    9% would become 10.8%

    total = 100%

    thats how much of each risk asset the portfolio would need to be comprised of.

    thanks to "TooOldForThis" for the help....
     
    #13     Jan 27, 2015
  4. xandman

    xandman

    Oops. The formula I gave would be to maximize a returns-based weighting. So for a minimization problem, you use the inverse. Brilliant. Thanks, TooOldforThis.
     
    #14     Jan 28, 2015
  5. shamimfx

    shamimfx

    in my opinion if u want to balance then mark all the risk in one 8%
     
    #15     Feb 2, 2015
  6. Murray Ruggiero

    Murray Ruggiero Sponsor

    Your missing a big problem. You can't do this with split adjusted data. On a portfolio you are forced to trade the same dollar value for all stocks if you are using split adjusted data or your results are just wrong. TradersStudio Stock analysis fixes these issues.

    Please see my thread on ET
    I am covering this topic here.

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    #16     Feb 3, 2015