Climate Change

Discussion in 'Politics' started by dbphoenix, Sep 26, 2014.

  1. Maybe you missed this.

    BEIJING — China and the United States made common cause on Wednesday against the threat of climate change, staking out an ambitious joint plan to curb carbon emissions as a way to spur nations around the world to make their own cuts in greenhouse gases.

    The landmark agreement, jointly announced here by President Obama and President Xi Jinping, includes new targets for carbon emissions reductions by the United States and a first-ever commitment by China to stop its emissions from growing by 2030.

    Administration officials said the agreement, which was worked out quietly between the United States and China over nine months and included a letter from Mr. Obama to Mr. Xi proposing a joint approach, could galvanize efforts to negotiate a new global climate agreement by 2015.

    It was the signature achievement of an unexpectedly productive two days of meetings between the leaders. Mr. Obama and Mr. Xi also agreed to a military accord designed to avert clashes between Chinese and American planes and warships in the tense waters off the Chinese coast, as well as an understanding to cut tariffs for technology products.

    A climate deal between China and the United States, the world’s No. 1 and No. 2 carbon polluters, is viewed as essential to concluding a new global accord. Unless Beijing and Washington can resolve their differences, climate experts say, few other countries will agree to mandatory cuts in emissions, and any meaningful worldwide pact will be likely to founder.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/12/world/asia/china-us-xi-obama-apec.html?module=Search&mabReward=relbias:r,{"1":"RI:5"}
     
    #651     Dec 21, 2014
  2. Max E.

    Max E.

    Thx for posting that, i almost forgot about this "deal." This was yet another example of obama's prowess when it comes to foreign policy negotiations. We sell the farm today, in hopes that some day in the future china might change their policy. The countries who are fortunate enough to be on the other end of obama's negotiations are laughing at us.

     
    #652     Dec 21, 2014

  3. We sold a farm? You must be the horse's ass. LOL.
     
    #653     Dec 21, 2014
  4. fhl

    fhl

    #654     Dec 22, 2014
  5. #655     Dec 22, 2014
  6. Who Is Steven Goddard?

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    It seems fitting that I should have at least one post looking at the Man who’s pseudo-science blog this one parodies.

    So what are his qualifications to post on climate issues? Who has/does he work for? How credible should he be taken?

    According to a question asked in one of his own postings Mr Goddard says;
    “I have a Bachelor of Science in Geology and a Masters In Electrical Engineering”
    So academically he is about as qualified as myself and about as qualified as my cat to post his own analysis’s climate change. Also from various comments and posts it seems that he likes soccer and follows the English Premiership and enjoys cycling.

    If you do a search for "Steven Goddard" on Google, it doesn't really show up much and this man seems very elusive, almost invisible. There are no photographs and no biography to the point that ‘Steven Goddard’ may even be a pseudonym. The cynic in me might suggest the name picked as a method of generating search hits on “Goddard” + “climate”.

    He has had some articles published in The Register a British technology news and opinion website. Searching his name at The Reg gives links to just 5 opinion pieces all from about four years ago.
    One of his pieces posted on Friday 15th August 2008 called ‘ “Arctic ice refuses to melt as ordered: There’s something rotten north of Denmark” he attacked the National Snow and Ice Data Center.

    But after being contacted by Dr. Walt Meier at NSIDC he was forced to issue a retraction;

    Steven Goddard writes: “Dr. Walt Meier at NSIDC has convinced me this week that their ice extent numbers are solid…. It is clear that the NSIDC graph is correct, and that 2008 Arctic ice is barely 10% above last year – just as NSIDC had stated.”
    Unfortunately, this original error raced around the world on the the blogosphere and in many cases remains uncorrected. More information on this retraction can be found here.

    Mr Goddard has previously popped up with numerous and inventive “sea ice updates” at Anthony Watts’WTFUWT blog. This should be a clear warning to any WATTS followers as to the awful standard permissible for posting there, and some embarrassing back tracking has also happened as this post shows; “Arctic Ice Graphing LessonIncreasing Bt 50,000 km2 per year”.

    Goddard’s ignorance on sea ice has also made him a topic at Skeptical Science.

    Mr Goddard has also contributed to to the Science and Public Policy Institute‘s never-ending stream of climate denier propaganda joining the ranks of the truly potty with Viscount Christopher Monckton of Brenchley now as a peer. A good over view of his standard of scientific rigour at SPPI can be found atsciblogs;​
     
    #656     Dec 22, 2014
  7. fhl

    fhl

    Global warmists hearing voices----- proclaiming the science has 'spoken'

    further proof it's nothing but a pagan religion
     
    #657     Dec 23, 2014
  8. fhl

    fhl

    WH Science Advisor: 'Human-Caused Warming' SAVING Earth from 'Another Ice Age'


    I wonder if a 'voice in his head' told him that.
     
    #658     Dec 24, 2014

  9. Yes, in 10 - 50 thousand years we are due for another ice age. If AGW continues we will not have it. The problem is that in a few hundred years the shit is going to hit the fan from the warming.

    But good to see you are "thinking" ahead. I use the word "thinking" very very loosely with you.
     
    #659     Dec 24, 2014
  10. fhl

    fhl

    In the You Knew It Was Coming dept, I'm seeing more and more articles by leftists 'explaining' that they were right about peak oil, and the great production surge that we've experienced doesn't count because it was just a result of higher prices of crude.

    HUH?!

    Proving once again that one has to be completely delusional to expect a liberal to ever admit they were wrong.
     
    #660     Dec 26, 2014