AAPL - Earnings this Monday October 20. Buy OTM Oct24 calls on Monday

Discussion in 'Options' started by FXforex, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. FXforex

    FXforex




    That's a loaded question, you haven't included Selling ATM Naked Calls and Puts, which would be my answer. And now you have market conditions that render options useless - who would buy them? :eek:



    :)
     
    #21     Oct 19, 2014
  2. It is not a loaded question. You have categorically stated your dislike of credit spreads because of their poor risk/reward ratio. I simply asked you to compare the outcome of a typical FXfx trade (OTM long call/put) versus an OTM credit spread when the underlying doesn't do as you expect.

    I don't think "risk/reward" tells the whole story. Expectation comes closer. You can spend your life trading super low risk/reward trades that are so far OTM they never hit, and where would that get you? A million infinitesimal losses still integrates up to a loss. Sure, I can buy a 4-StDev OTM call and if SPY shoots up 5 StDev before expiry, I'll have a massive ROI. Is that a practical trading system? Not for most people. Maybe it is for you. Different strokes . . .
     
    #22     Oct 19, 2014
  3. donnap

    donnap

    FYI, you could sell the 101 for more than 1.24 now. Free spread. Max value 200, investment 0.
     
    #23     Oct 20, 2014
  4. FXforex

    FXforex


    I like to avoid micro-managing a position, but I would consider selling half if it was up well over 100%. My AAPL Oct24 100.00 Call position is still open and AAPL is at $101.27 after earnings, not the jump I expected.



    :)
     
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2014
    #24     Oct 20, 2014
  5. Scaleout.Scalper

    Scaleout.Scalper Guest

    Now buy weakness using feb as expiration instead of these dumbass earning gambles.
     
    #25     Oct 20, 2014
  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    What weakness? The stock is like five percent higher than where he initiated the trade?
     
    #26     Oct 21, 2014
  7. FXforex

    FXforex




    UPDATE



    I will post a summary of this trade on Friday after the Oct24 options expire.




    :)
     
    #27     Oct 21, 2014
  8. donnap

    donnap

    Good job. Personally, I thought closing or partial at 2+ before EA was a good move, but you showed me wrong:)
     
    #28     Oct 21, 2014
  9. FXforex

    FXforex

    OCT24 OPTION EXPIRY SUMMARY

    The AAPL earnings trade was a flawless textbook example of a well planned trade. The 7-day chart below is an easy way to visualize the trade is it progressed.


    [​IMG]
    AAPL 7-Day Chart from October 16 to October 24

    Blue Dot - Thursday Oct 16 at 3:42 PM EST - Original post with AAPL earnings trade idea
    Red Dot - Friday Oct 17 at 3:41 PM EST - Bought 2 contracts AAPL Oct24 100.00 Calls at $1.24
    Green Dot - Tuesday Oct 21 at 9:32 AM EST - Sold to close 2 contracts AAPL Oct24 100.00 Calls at $3.11


    • Debit: $248.00
    • Credit: $622.00
    • P/L: $374.00 (+150%) (commissions not included)


    :)
     
    #29     Oct 24, 2014
  10. Profits are great, but you had a $105 target. You terminated your "flawless" trade well short of your target, and the underlying actually ground its way past $105. You left ~ $400 on the table. "Flawless".
     
    #30     Oct 24, 2014