Apple Spread 50,000 Calls each way for Nov 2014 8/28/2014

Discussion in 'Options' started by JesseJamesFinn, Aug 29, 2014.

  1. 1245

    1245

    How do you know what the stock price was that it was paired with?
     
    #11     Aug 31, 2014
  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    On blpomberg there was a 60,000 lot that printed two minutes later. It had an options code with it.
     
    #12     Aug 31, 2014
  3. donnap

    donnap

    Hmm...well it's a 1/2 billion dollar trade, so I'd assume that they know what they're doing. A good looking trade, but I don't understand your statement. Assuming that they keep the trade intact, what about the scenario of the calls ITM enough to be assigned before ex-div? Then they'd lose the div. And they'd have to deal with the put side.

    And they might lose value in the American style calls, or rather, through the inability of the calls to maintain P/C parity. I'd say low probability of this happening, but it's possible.

    Perhaps they have enough cushion with the forward to handle just about anything. There may be an outside chance that just the yield gets whacked, hence your statement.
     
    #13     Aug 31, 2014
  4. 1245

    1245

    So what was th
    Got it. I assume this benefited both side. Both the Delta One firm and the customer that has a different cost of capital and maybe from a country with different dividend taxes.
     
    #14     Aug 31, 2014
  5. Chris Mac

    Chris Mac

    Apple is dying right now. Time to buy puts?
     
    #15     Sep 3, 2014
  6. FXforex

    FXforex


    Stay the course . Buy Calls


    :)
     
    #16     Sep 3, 2014
  7. How did our friend's position work out for him today? I wonder if he closed anything out or is waiting for more pain?
     
    #17     Sep 3, 2014
  8. 1245

    1245

    It's not a spread with that kind of risk. It's delta neural and the only risk is from dividend and interest rate changes. It's a conversion: Long Stock+Long Put +short call
     
    #18     Sep 3, 2014
  9. Chris Mac

    Chris Mac

    Well, I don't understand these kind of strategies and to be honest I don't want to understand them.
    The only thing I know is that in 2007/2008, lot of guys developed complex optional strategies and most of them are not here anymore because their models ultimately exploded.
    As of today, i just want to be LONG PUT Apple (90? 80? 70 maybe?) and SHORT Nasdaq if support breaks. Basic, but i know what is my risk and when i am wrong.
     
    #19     Sep 4, 2014
  10. Chris Mac

    Chris Mac

    As of yesterday, Put 10/18/14 strike 90 quoted 0.87/0.89, which was 1% of the price.
    Not given, but not expensive too. Target is at least 10, which means that during next 2-3 weeks, Apple must go below 90. Good reward/risk i think, similar to september 2012 !
    A well-known female philosopher said : "Oops, i did it again". Well, what about Apple this time?

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    #20     Sep 4, 2014